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CHAT: Humpty Dumpty (was: con-childish taunts)

From:Raymond A. Brown <raybrown@...>
Date:Wednesday, May 19, 1999, 6:58
At 3:49 pm -0400 18/5/99, Mathias wrote:
>Dans un courrier dat=E9 du 18/05/99 20:19:17 , Ray a =E9crit : > >> The Victorians >> were also responsible for turning Humpty Dumpty into an egg! >> > >what was it before then ?
And at 5:08 pm -0500 18/5/99, Nik Taylor wrote: =2E.....
>What or who was Humpty Dumpty originally?
Ah, why did I mention him! I'll have to do a bit of research again. But IIRC "he" was some sort artillery piece - or some war engine - used in the civil war between Cromwell's "Roundheads" and the royalists. There were other versions of the poem. One began: 'Humpty Dumpty fell in a beck'... 'Beck' is an dialect word for "stream". The next line ended with 'neck', but I don't recall the other words now. I'll report back :) The Victorians seemed to have had a fondness for "tidying up" nursery rhymes and giving "official forms" - something Lewis Carrol good naturedly mocked in many of his writings. Ray.