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Re: THEORY: Feature geometry for uvulars/pharyngeals

From:Joe <joe@...>
Date:Saturday, June 28, 2003, 10:25
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From: "Julien Eychenne" <je@...>
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Sent: Friday, June 27, 2003 2:20 PM
Subject: Re: THEORY: Feature geometry for uvulars/pharyngeals


> Hi, > > Jörg Rhiemeier a écrit : > > JS Bangs <jaspax@...> writes: > > > > > >>I've been poking around for a while, and I'm really stymied trying to
find
> >>out how to fit uvulars and pharyngeals into a feature geometric system. > >>I've gotten a couple of fragmentary descriptions from here and there,
but
> >>nothing very conclusive or helpful. > > > > > > I don't think it makes much sense to group uvulars and pharyngeals > > together. They aren't really that alike, phonetically. > > I'm sorry but I think they are. They do form a natural class with > glottals and pharyngeals in many languages (classical arabic is a well > known example). > > > >> The best I can get is that there's two > >>possibilities: > >> > >>A privative feature [pharyngeal] under the Place node (but what about > >>distinguishing uvulars from pharyngeals?). > > > > > > Uvulars are not [pharyngeal] in any meaningful sense. > > But [pharyngeal] is just a label. Maybe [guttural] is more appropriate, > though I personnally prefer [pharyngeal]. It's just like saying that [i] > is [coronal] : it doesn't make sense on its own, but it is a rough label > that allows you to have a unified treatment of consonants and vowels.
I think you're thinking of Laryngeals. Pharyngeals are a specific place in the mouth.
> Regards, > > Julien. >

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Julien Eychenne <je@...>