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Re: Kyrgyz was Re: Zetowvu / Ezotwuv (new conlang)

From:Christophe Grandsire <christophe.grandsire@...>
Date:Tuesday, February 25, 2003, 21:45
En réponse à Joe <joe@...>:

> On Tuesday 25 February 2003 9:14 pm, Christophe Grandsire wrote: > > En réponse à Joe <joe@...>: > > > > Which nasals are being merged? /E~/ and /9~/? > > > > > > I'd expect it to be /a~/ and /O~/ they sound much the same to me. > > > > But not to any French-speaking person in the world! They sound > awfully > > different to me!! > > > > Really? I struggle telling the difference.
Yet the difference is huge! [a~] is open front unrounded, [O~] open-mid back rounded. They have nothing alike except the nasality. /9~/ is as in <un>, right?
> And > /E~/ as in <matin>?
Exactly. They don't sound anything alike to me. Yet they are identical except for roundedness. [E~] is open-mid front unrounded, [9~] is open-mid front rounded. They are really nearly identical. I know many people who don't hear the difference and they sound very much alike to me. Stupid
> phonemic > differences between languages. >
Actually, I find that French follows quite well actual acoustic differences here. Christophe. http://rainbow.conlang.free.fr Take your life as a movie: do not let anybody else play the leading role.

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