En réponse à Daniel Andreasson Vpc-Work <daniel.andreasson@...>:
>
> In my French speech (which admittedly isn't very good
> grammatically/vocabularywise, but pretty okay pronunciationwise) I have
> 'matin' /mat&~/, 'un' /&~/,
How awful! It sounds like "matant" and "an" to me!
> 'bon' /bO~/ and 'blanc' /blA~/.
>
> To me /a~/ and /E~/ sounds like [A~] and [&~] (or perhaps
> something in between [E] and [&]. [a~] sounds just hilarious.
>
Why? It's an extremely serious sound! [A~] is the one which sounds bad in my
ears (see below for the reason).
> Am I totally nuts here?
Quite indeed.
Or is the Frenchmen's pronunciation
> of /a/ a bit more back than IPA would like to admit?
[a~] is indeed slightly backer than [a] proper, but doesn't even cross the
central zone. so [A~] is certainly *not* a correct way to pronounce it. It
sounds like the typical onomatopoeia some less-than-dressed actresses of a
certain genre of cinema use pretty often in their "performances" ;)) .
Or is
> the Swedish /E/ and /&/ not really /E/ and /&/? What's
> up here?
>
I wouldn't know. But "in" is *definitely* [E~] and doesn't go any lower than
that (anything lower sounds like /a~/ to me).
Christophe.
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