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Re: Kyrgyz was Re: Zetowvu / Ezotwuv (new conlang)

From:Christophe Grandsire <christophe.grandsire@...>
Date:Wednesday, February 26, 2003, 13:32
En réponse à Daniel Andreasson Vpc-Work <daniel.andreasson@...>:

> > In my French speech (which admittedly isn't very good > grammatically/vocabularywise, but pretty okay pronunciationwise) I have > 'matin' /mat&~/, 'un' /&~/,
How awful! It sounds like "matant" and "an" to me!
> 'bon' /bO~/ and 'blanc' /blA~/. > > To me /a~/ and /E~/ sounds like [A~] and [&~] (or perhaps > something in between [E] and [&]. [a~] sounds just hilarious. >
Why? It's an extremely serious sound! [A~] is the one which sounds bad in my ears (see below for the reason).
> Am I totally nuts here?
Quite indeed. Or is the Frenchmen's pronunciation
> of /a/ a bit more back than IPA would like to admit?
[a~] is indeed slightly backer than [a] proper, but doesn't even cross the central zone. so [A~] is certainly *not* a correct way to pronounce it. It sounds like the typical onomatopoeia some less-than-dressed actresses of a certain genre of cinema use pretty often in their "performances" ;)) . Or is
> the Swedish /E/ and /&/ not really /E/ and /&/? What's > up here? >
I wouldn't know. But "in" is *definitely* [E~] and doesn't go any lower than that (anything lower sounds like /a~/ to me). Christophe. http://rainbow.conlang.free.fr Take your life as a movie: do not let anybody else play the leading role.

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