Re: Historical date help needed!
From: | Tommie L Powell <tommiepowell@...> |
Date: | Tuesday, September 2, 2003, 6:50 |
Mark J. Reed wrote:
>Thomas Leigh wrote:
> > Can anyone tell me by approximately what date(s):
> >
> > 1. The Magyars had settled in what is now Hungary
>
> 895 AD, under Arpad.
>
> > 2. Slavs had settled in what is now Slovakia
> During the 5th century AD
>
> > (and Bohemia/Moravia, for that matter)
> circa 600 AD
>
> > and/or Slovenia?
> During the 6th century AD
I (Tommie Powell) add:
The Slavs who came into Slovakia in the 400s were probably precursors of
the Ruthenians, and unrelated to the present-day Slovaks (whose language
is extremely similar to Czech and was regarded as a Czech dialect until
the late 1800s). Ruthenia is just east of Slovakia, and is now ruled by
Ukraine.
The Danube Basin was heavily populated by Dacians and Romanized Germans
until the late 400s, when Atilla the Hun pretty much depopulated it and
drove most Germans from its northern fringe (Bohemia, Moravia, Slovakia).
Then, around 600, it got repopulated in an interesting fashion.
A Central Asian tribe called the Avars captured about a dozen Slavic
tribes as it moved across Crimea and southern Ukraine. We don't know
much about the Avars, but they reputedly had insatiable greed, so our
words "avarice" and "avaricious" refer to them. Anyway, the Avars
brought those Slavs into the Danube Basin and its northern fringe as
enslaved or client tribes, and wiped out the remaining natives. (I
imagine that those Slavs regarded their situation as a great adventure,
and probably didn't mind taking over the land the Avars emptied for
them.) Soon thereafter, the Avars disappeared from history.
When the Magyars came into the Danube Basin in the late 800s, they didn't
exterminate the native population, so there's a fair bit of Slavic blood
in Magyar veins and Slavic words in the Magyar language (mainly referring
to household stuff, which suggests that the conquering generation of
Magyars may have been predominately men and married lots of Slavic gals).
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