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Re: a case-free language?

From:Philip Newton <philip.newton@...>
Date:Sunday, October 3, 2004, 17:28
On Fri, 1 Oct 2004 14:41:49 +0200, Henrik Theiling <theiling@...> wrote:
> I had a long discussion about this some time ago. And I was convinced > (although probaby only by making the other people have flat foreheads > from banging their head on the table because I am so stubborn) that > 'case' is something purely morphological and many languages achieve > the same effect (marking semantical roles and argument assignment) > differently, e.g. by word order (e.g. Chinese) or adpositions > (e.g. Japanese, Korean). Thus these languages are said to not have > case.
I'm a little confused, though. I'm sure someone has explained it to me in the past, but I've forgotten. What is it that makes Japanese be described as having no case? Would it not make sense to posit a single noun class with, say, nominative case ending -ga, accusative case ending -wo, dative case ending -he etc.? (After all, in Japanese one can't distinguish between adpositions and word endings, since word boundaries aren't marked in writing.) Why is it that Finnish is described as having cases, while the related Hungarian is described as not having any? Is it because Hungarian affixes are added to an invariable word stem (except for -val/-vel IIRC) while Finnish endings change the word stem? Explanations are welcome. Yours confusedly, -- Philip Newton <philip.newton@...> Watch the Reply-To!

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