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Re: Personal Conjugation based on Closeness

From:Tristan McLeay <zsau@...>
Date:Thursday, April 3, 2003, 9:10
On Thu, 3 Apr 2003, Andreas Johansson wrote:

> Quoting Tristan McLeay <zsau@...>: > > That [&] at the end is a big no-no unless that syllable has the > > primary > > stress. (Which it doesn't.) > > It is? For RPoid English too? Well, I shan't claim that the English phonology > education I've had has been in-depth.
I'm pretty sure. But I might be wrong. Better to ask a speaker of RPoid English.
> > > When speaking Swedish, I'd render your name ['tr`Is:tan]. How bad does > > that make > > > you cringe? > > > > Not too bad. I much rather a [@] before the [n], though. (Why isn't > > that > > final [a] or [n] long? Doesn't Swedish need one to be long? Or is that > > only in stressed syllables?) > > That only applies in stress syllables, yes. > > I'll happily supply a schwa in the second syllable when speaking English, but my > Swedish 'lect won't have it. Could do ['tr`Is:tEn] where the [E] is kind of > schwa-like.
Yes... [E] sounds more schwa-like. And I've been known to use /e/ for /@/-like sounds when I can't do them in my own dialect (e.g. saying what Kiwi pronunciations of words like 'Nick' and 'six' sound like).
> > It gets pronounced variously: ["tSr\Ist@n], ["tSr\ISt@n], > > ["tSr\IStS@n]
> > you're likely to spell it <Tristian> or---worse---<Christian> (With no > > Why does the "s" get realized sometimes as [s], sometimes as [S]?
I'm guessing it's just remnants of the postalveolar [tS] before it creeping forward. But it must also have something to do with the [t] after it because not every word with [tSr] and [s] in it has the second [s] realised as [S]. It could always be some odd influence from Trish, not that it's a common name these days (it's a shortened form of Patricia, btw).
> And BTW, you pronounce "Christian" (the adjective) with initial [tS]?
No, I pronounce it with /k/. But people sitll want to to spell (and hear) /tSr/ as the first part of Christian. We've had this discussion before; Shreyas complained that people heard his name as Treyas; I mentioned my problem, then Christophe piped in with the fact that his family sometimes (jokingly) pronounced his name with a /S/. -- Tristan <kesuari@...> War doesn't prove who's right, just who's left. - fortune.


Andreas Johansson <andjo@...>