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Re: YAEPT: OMFG I'm a mutant!!! (was Re: Advanced English to become official!)

From:Ray Brown <ray.brown@...>
Date:Monday, April 4, 2005, 18:55
On Sunday, April 3, 2005, at 11:19 , Paul Bennett wrote:

> On Sun, 03 Apr 2005 15:54:36 -0400, Damian Yerrick <tepples@...> > wrote: > >> True. An accented /@/ is pronounced /V/, as evidenced by the >> phonemic respellings in some English dictionaries published by >> Merriam-Webster dictionaries, which use the schwa symbol for >> both [V] and [@]. > > I seem to be at odds with the entire English-speaking world. Not only do > I > distinguish /i\/ from /@/
So do I.
> (which apparently is unheard of in both American > and British dictionaries,
Chamber's English Dictionary does; but it doesn't distinguish [i\] from [I] , giving _affect_ as /&'feEkt/ and _effect_ /I'fEkt/.
> but to my ear as clear as a bell in actual > speech on both sides of the pond), but I clearly have [V] for /V/, and > never [@].
Same with me, and generally IME down here in the south east of England.
> A stressed /@/ in my lect is pronounced as whatever vowel it > was reduced from, which is almost universally reconstructable based on > English's lovely morphoetymological spelling,
Yep :)
> and a small measure of knowledge of etymology.
IMO the spelling does it. Ray =============================================== http://home.freeuk.com/ray.brown ray.brown@freeuk.com =============================================== Anything is possible in the fabulous Celtic twilight, which is not so much a twilight of the gods as of the reason." [JRRT, "English and Welsh" ]