|Date:||Wednesday, June 9, 2004, 5:36|
Date: Tue, 8 Jun 2004 10:43:21 -0400
From: John Cowan <cowan@...>
Subject: Re: Preventatives
John Cowan <cowan@...> wrote:
Yes, that wasn't very well worded. Try these:
I shot him on Thursday; he died on Friday.
a) Therefore, I caused him to die on Friday. [true]
b) Therefore, I killed him on Friday. [false]
IOW, "kill" is not *simply* the causative of "die".
There is also the "factitive", which is different from vague causative and
is used by natlangs to add the notion of acting specifically to prompt a
specific reaction in pairs like "to teach" vs. "to learn", to kill/to die,
to gather/to yield, to sell/to buy, to let/to rent, etc. Japanese, Khmer and
Tahitian inter alia do make such difference (and so do I in my own conlang.)