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Re: New Englishisms

From:Steg Belsky <draqonfayir@...>
Date:Wednesday, March 10, 1999, 23:38
On Wed, 10 Mar 1999 16:56:36 -0500 Brian Betty <bbetty@...> writes:
>Well! While we're on the topic of regionalisms, let me make some >observations about New English speech (New Englanders ... )
Here comes the NYCer :) .... it's pretty much the same thing for me.
>1. clip everything. I say ev'ry, ev'rything, p'sition (not position, >but >pzishin). This often leads to a weird vowel harmony thingie when you >get >this really long word with all the vowels collapsed /klaepst/ to /i/ >or >/@/. Prescription /pr@skripshn/. Elimination /ilimineyshn/. Christmas >/krismis/. Et cetera.
Yup....ev'ry, /pr@skrIpSIn/, /@lImInejSIn/, /krIsmIs/. But i say "p'zishin" with a little [@], and "cuh-llapsed" with a more definite [V].
>2. Intervocalic -d-, -t- become flaps. Sweater sounds like /swerR/; >even >'sudden' is almost /sar-n/. My favorite, though, is when I actually >make a >dental stop into a rolled r: this happens most often with: "What are >you >doing?" > /'(h)warryu 'du:ing?/. Really. I get quite a roll into it >without >even noticing it.
I have the flapped Ds, although i'm not sure exactly how flapped and how /d/ it is in "what are you (doing)", which, as everyone knows :) , in NYCer is "whaddaya..."
>3. talk really, really fast, so that when you travel out of New >England >people say "What? What? What?" all the time. Usually followed by, >"Slow >down, say it again." >4. I say /o:fn/ (o: is aw in law).
Yup, me too.
>5. I claim to recognise the audible difference between Mary, marry, >and >merry, which to my Oregonian roommate is all /meri:/ (here r = >American r) >and to me is /maeri:/, /mae:ri:/ and /meri:/, respectively.
I don't know your phonetic orthography, but "Mary, marry, merry" in "N'yawka" are /me@ri/, /m&ri/, /mEri/, the first one having the /e@/ diphthong found in other words such as "pale", "care", "bad", and "grass".
>6. many New Englanders don't have ahs (rs), as is probably familiar to >many >people on this list. Others, like myself, overcompensate and have rs >coiled >up like a little ball of rubber bands. Uberrhotic, I reckon. >7. Also, ts are frequently replaced by glottal stops, especially in >syllable-final position: hi' for hit. si' for sit.
I'm not sure about this one...
>The oddest thing is that people in New England also say y'all. That >might >be because of the influence of the universities ... But y'allses is >definitely out.
Here people say the long form, "you all"....probably to not sound like 'hicks' ( = the rest of the country) :) .
>BB > >*********
-Stephen (Steg) "hhalomot zeh b'emet" ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]