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Re: Clicks (was: Arabic Phonetics WAS Re: Primary Interjections - Unversals?

From:And Rosta <a.rosta@...>
Date:Saturday, April 13, 2002, 1:12
Ray:
> At 7:15 am -0400 8/4/02, John Cowan wrote: > >Christophe Grandsire scripsit: > > > >> Well, the problem is that I *can't* pronounce nasalised clicks. I > just don't > >> manage to pronounce them. So I basically disagree on the statement > that they > >> are easier to pronounce than normal clicks, and that because of personal > >> experience. > > > >Hmmm, strange. > > Not at all. I'm afraid I just don't follow And on this one (you may recall > I've argued with him before - and I guess we'll never agree on it). > > On this matter, this Saxon is in complete agreement with his Norman friend: > "So I basically disagree on the statement that they are easier to pronounce > than normal clicks, and that because of personal experience." My > sentiments exactly :)
You will recall that I gave several arguments, (a) the articulatory argument, recapitulated by John, (b) the evidence of Damin, and (c) evidence (from my own & others' experience) from teaching students to produce clicks. So while I can perfectly well accept your and Christophe's personal experience as differing from "Rosta's Observation", I would still contend that *in general* that observation is correct. --And.