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Re: Constructed Computer Architectures (Concomps?)

From:Mark J. Reed <markjreed@...>
Date:Monday, February 9, 2009, 19:53
Ah, character encoding is another interesting realm. I recall working
on some project where we decided that the Klingons would eventually
adopt Unicode (we assumed the Federation already had) but encode it a
ternary analog of UTF-8 (six-trit units IIRC).

On 2/9/09, John Osborne <osborne6@...> wrote:
> In that case , you may want to google the setun computer for ideas - > this was a ternary logic computer built at Moscow State in the > 50's/60's. If you want to skip the whole binary/ternary/etc logic, > you might want to look into 'analog computers' (usually used for bomb > sights) and 'real computers' (I don't know of any examples of this, > just a theory right now). > > You also mentioned using a new programming language to work on > computers comparable to what we have now - again there are some > hobbyist projects like colorforth and a bootable lisp based floppy for > x86 based machines that would serve as inspiration. > > Me, personally, I'd toyed with the idea of programming something > together from the ground up in assembler, using a custom > alphabet/script instead of ascii. But then again, most of my > conlanging in in the early stages, so I'm pretty far away from that. > > On Mon, Feb 9, 2009 at 9:39 AM, Mark J. Reed <markjreed@...> wrote: >> Whether you use prefab IC chips or a breadboard and wires, these >> hobbyists making computers are all making von Neumann machines based >> on binary logic. What we're talking about is either designing >> computers that work on different principles, or just designing new >> programming languages that work on the same kinds of computers we have >> now. Actually building the former would require much more effort than >> a breadboard CPU; much easier to simulate it on one of these binary >> von Neumann machines we're all typing on. :) >> >> On Mon, Feb 9, 2009 at 9:57 AM, John Osborne <osborne6@...> wrote: >>> You may want to look into some work that hobbyists have already done >>> with that. A few years ago someone built their own computer, using >>> discreet logic chips: >>> >>> http://www.linuxdevices.com/news/NS5804062141.html >>> http://www.homebrewcpu.com/ >>> >>> That would give you the rough idea of what's involved. >>> >>> On Sun, Feb 8, 2009 at 2:44 PM, Paul Bennett <paul.w.bennett@...> >>> wrote: >>>> Where does the design of imaginary computer architectures (and >>>> programming >>>> languages) stand in the ranks of con-somethinging? >>>> >>>> It's probably a highly esoteric question, but that's what I'm doing >>>> right >>>> now, instead of conlanging: noodling around with a few programming >>>> language >>>> designs that each started off as attempts to create notation systems for >>>> specific problems, and dummying up a few completely impractical >>>> computers to >>>> do thought experiments on. At the hazy borderlines of the two live my >>>> thoughs of assembler opcodes and register sets (etc) for best >>>> implementing a >>>> given language on one of those computers. >>>> >>>> Anyone else ever dug into that sort of stuff? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Paul >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/mail/ >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> John Osborne >>> osborne6@ieee.org/osborne6@gmail.com/jro@freeshell.org >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> Mark J. Reed <markjreed@...> >> > > > > -- > John Osborne > osborne6@ieee.org/osborne6@gmail.com/jro@freeshell.org >
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