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Standardized translation

From:Charles <catty@...>
Date:Friday, June 4, 1999, 1:59
Joe Mondello wrote:
>=20 > I was thinking about the cross-cultural problems of having a st=
andard
> text for translation, and I came up with the following proposal. A lis=
t of
> sentences in which the actual vocabulary is user defined but the > tense/aspect/verbs/etc. are standardized is created. Or many proposals =
could
> be made and subsequently voted on. the series of sentences would seek =
to
> demonstrate the way in which a basic set of variables operate in each > language. That way, if I was curious to see how Peoughk=EFps=E9=E1=E0f=
=EA=EB=EC would say
> "X[noun] doesn't want Y[noun] to Z[verb} A[adverb]" I would know where =
to
> look in the sequence of sentences to find such a construction or a simi=
lar
> construction. Of course it woulodn't work in every example for every > language, but I think it would give a fair idea of some of each languag=
e's
> traits. > So what do you think?
Reminds me of the WordNet verb frames ... Not the same thing, but interesting in a different way. By lexicographers of English. Anyway here they are, unsorted, not too long to quote:
> 1 The children %s to the playground > 10 The cars %s down the avenue > 100 These glasses %s easily > 101 These fabrics %s easily > 102 They %s their earnings this year > 103 Their earnings %s this year > 104 The water %ss=20 > 105 They %s the water=20 > 106 The animals %s > 107 They %s a long time > 108 The car %s the tree=20 > 109 John will %s angry > 11 They %s the car down the avenue > 110 They %s in the city > 111 They won't %s the story=20 > 112 They %s that there was a traffic accident=20 > 113 They %s whether there was a traffic accident > 114 They %s her vice president > 115 Did he %s his major works over a short period of time? > 116 The chefs %s the vegetables > 117 They %s the cape=20 > 118 The food does %s good=20 > 119 The music does %s good=20 > 12 They %s the glass tubes > 120 The cool air does %s good > 121 This food does %s well=20 > 122 It was %sing all day long=20 > 123 They %s him to write the letter > 124 They %s him into writing the letter > 125 They %s him from writing the letter > 126 The bad new will %s him > 127 The good new will %s her > 128 The chefs wants to %s the eggs=20 > 129 Sam wants to %s with Sue=20 > 13 The glass tubes %s=20 > 130 The fighter managed to %s his opponent > 131 These cars won't %s=20 > 132 The branches %s from the trees > 133 The stock market is going to %s=20 > 134 The moon will soon %s=20 > 135 The business is going to %s=20 > 136 The airplane is sure to %s=20 > 137 They %s to move=20 > 138 They %s moving=20 > 139 Sam and Sue %s the movie=20 > 14 Sam and Sue %s > 140 They want to %s the prisoners=20 > 141 They want to %s the doors > 142 The doors %s=20 > 143 Did he %s his foot?=20 > 144 Did his feet %s? > 145 They will %s the duet > 146 They %s their hair=20 > 147 They %s the tree=20 > 15 Sam is %sing Sue=20 > 16 The ropes %s > 17 The strong winds %s the rope > 18 They %s the sheets > 19 The sheets didn't %s > 2 The banks %s the check > 20 The horses %s across the field > 21 They %s the bags on the table > 22 The men %s the horses across the field > 23 Our properties %s at this point > 24 His fields %s mine at this point > 25 They %s the hill > 26 They %s up the hill > 27 They %s the river > 28 They %s down the river=20 > 29 They %s the countryside > 3 The checks %s=20 > 30 They %s in the countryside > 31 These men %s across the river > 32 These men %s the river > 33 They %s the food to the people > 34 They %s the people the food > 35 They %s more bread =20 > 36 They %s the object in the water > 37 The men %s the bookshelves > 38 They %s the money in the closet > 39 The lights %s from the ceiling > 4 The children %s the ball > 40 They %s the lights from the ceiling > 41 They %s their rifles on the cabinet > 42 The chairs %s in the corner > 43 The men %s the chairs > 44 They women %s water into the bowl > 45 Water and oil %s into the bowl > 46 They %s the wire around the stick > 47 The wires %s around the stick > 48 They %s the bread with melted butter > 49 They %s the cart with boxes=20 > 5 The balls %s=20 > 50 They %s the books into the box > 51 They %s sugar over the cake > 52 They %s the cake with sugar > 53 They %s the fruit with a chemical > 54 They %s a chemical into the fruit > 55 They %s the field with rye > 56 They %s rye in the field > 57 They %s notices on the doors > 58 They %s the doors with notices > 59 They %s money on their grandchild > 6 The girls %s the wooden sticks > 60 They %s their grandchild with money > 61 They %s coins on the image=20 > 62 They %s the image with coins=20 > 63 They %s butter on the bread > 64 They %s the lake with fish > 65 The children %s the paper with grease=20 > 66 The children %s grease onto the paper > 67 They %s papers over the floor > 68 They %s the floor with papers > 69 They %s the money=20 > 7 The wooden sticks %s=20 > 70 They %s the papers > 71 They %s the goods > 72 The men %s the boat=20 > 73 They %s the animals > 74 The books %s the box=20 > 75 They %s the halls with holly > 76 Holly flowers %s the halls > 77 The wind storms %s the area with dust and dirt > 78 Dust and dirt %s the area > 79 The swollen rivers %s the area with water > 8 The coins %s=20 > 80 The waters %s the area > 81 They %s the cloth with water and alcohol > 82 Water and alcohol %s the cloth > 83 They %s the snow from the path > 84 They %s the path of the snow > 85 They %s the water from the sink > 86 They %s the sink of water > 87 They %s the parcel to their parents > 88 They %s them the parcel > 89 They %s cars to the tourists > 9 They %s the coin=20 > 90 They %s the tourists their cars > 91 They %s the money to them=20 > 92 They %s them the money > 93 They %s them the information > 94 They %s the information to them > 95 The parents %s a French poem to the children > 96 The parents %s the children a French poem=20 > 97 They %s=20 > 98 They %s themselves > 99 These balls %s easily