Re: How much data in your conlang nouns?
From: | Chris Bates <christopher.bates@...> |
Date: | Tuesday, January 6, 2004, 13:28 |
Joe wrote:
> David Peterson wrote:
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>> Gary wrote:
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>> <<1. Number (such as singular, dual, plural)
>> 2. Gender (such as masc., fem., neut.)
>> 3. Class or Declension (Varies with language)
>> 4. Case (nom., dat., gen., etc. varies with language)
>> 5. Social mode (formal, informal, royal, sacred, who
>> knows)>>
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>> Okie doke. Zhyler has singular and plural, 17 noun classes, and 57
>> cases. That comes to 1,938. However, I'm not sure about including
>> noun classes in this list... Or maybe I just don't understand how
>> noun classes would be the same as the plural. If you strip away the
>> plural, the noun case, etc., you still have a basic nominal idea. If
>> you strip away the noun class, you can end up with either nothing or
>> something completely different--same goes for the gender (e.g., "niño"
>> = "boy" in Spanish, but "niñ-" = ?). Or am I overthinking this?
>>
>> -David
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> No, you're right. A few words will have varying noun classes/gender -
> niño, as opposed to niña, but most have fixed ones. What would be
> interesting is if all nouns could change class, changing the meaning to
> something related.
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I think swahili does this regularly... I was learning, but I haven't got
very far yet. Example:
mtoto child
watoto children
utoto childhood
You can use changes in noun class to get dimuitive and augmentive
meanings as well I believe. Note here that m- wa- and u- show class
membership.
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