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Re: Semantic Content of Grammatical Gender?

From:Njenfalgar <njenfalgar@...>
Date:Monday, February 2, 2009, 9:20
2009/1/31 Daniel Bowman <danny.c.bowman@...>

> Has anyone else attempted a grammar that made strict semantic distinctions? > Did you run into similar problems, and if so, how did you solve them? >
I have made conlangs with semantic distinctions, but usually I a) go for naturalistic, which means messy, so I don't solve problems, I just let them make things interesting, and b) don't develop my langs in very much detail, so that I only rarely get to the point where there are problems. But maybe the Vietnamese system could be of inspiration. There are rather correct semantic distinctions, apart from some words which are in the wrong category (rivers, knives and roads are animals). As a first: Vietnamese has a great many categories (long object, round object, object one can sit inside of, house, king, vehicle, sheet of paper...). I've been learning the language for several years now, and I can read books (with the necessary patience), but sometimes I still discover new categories I had not seen before. So that solves the problem for a great many words already. And when it comes to the remainder of the words (those which still don't fit), the solution is simple: they don't have a class. Usually it's the more abstract nouns that remain, and as a rule uncountable nouns are classless. And lastly: there is one class for just "objects". So if necessary, any leftovers can be placed there. Greets David -- Idustvok va yentelkvil gifpir, puk gifpir, ivan kitil.