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Re: USAGE: intrusive "r" [was Re: (Offlist) Re: ASCII IPA]

From:Thomas R. Wier <trwier@...>
Date:Thursday, August 22, 2002, 3:29
Quoting Roger Mills <romilly@...>:

> Tom Wier wrote: > > >For some reason, in America I associate this phenomenon > >exclusively with New England. [...] > > New England, definitely. _South_ Dakota??? ;) The odd thing was that in > my (vintage 1940s) grade-school class of 30-some, there were maybe 2 or 3 > offenders, and _idear_ was almost the only word where it occurred-- one > heard it from adults too. (Cuba not being a subject of much discussion in > those days). The usage tended to correlate with lower socio-economic > status, hence the opprobrium from teachers and other middle-class types. > Since their accents were otherwise standard midwestern, it's hard to see > where "idear" came from. Perhaps a survival from parents/grandparents who > may been migrants from New England. > > (Incidentally the final -r was not just intervocalic; it was always there, > as in "Hey, that's a good idear!")
Interesting. It strikes me that this might be a lone holdover from immigrants from the East Coast. The westernmost dialects of the South have analogous holdovers. I myself grew up saying _cuss(words)_ instead of _curse(words)_, despite the fact that Texan dialects are more or less entirely rhotic. (I distinctly remember the first time I heard someone speak of "curse" words. I was in about the fourth grade, and a Canadian woman was reprimanding a group of boys for their rowdiness. I knew immediately what she meant, but it was odd, nonetheless.) So, in both cases, South Dakotan _idear_ and Texan _cuss_, it seems the odd addition or lack of rhoticness is defined in the UR. (The only difference is, _cuss_ was not looked down on as the speech of ignorant people; it's just what people used.) ========================================================================= Thomas Wier Dept. of Linguistics "Nihil magis praestandum est quam ne pecorum ritu University of Chicago sequamur antecedentium gregem, pergentes non qua 1010 E. 59th Street eundum est, sed qua itur." -- Seneca Chicago, IL 60637

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