Re: Are any of you working on a conlang that is based off ofnon-indo-european languages?
From: | Christophe Grandsire <christophe.grandsire@...> |
Date: | Thursday, May 30, 2002, 8:03 |
En réponse à Balazs Sudar <conlang@...>:
>
> I don't know what do you expect from me, but I have to say, even when I
> base a language on Hungarian, that means only it's a language with lots
> of suffixes, prepositions, affixes, but nothing special in other
> grammatical aspects. Hungarian word order is mostly free, depends on
> what's important in the sentence. Greatest part of its lexicon is
> derived from the languages around.
>
So it's more a language influenced by some natlangs rather than based on some
natlangs. Fair enough. I think we all do that. After all, Tolkien's Quenya and
Sindarin were influenced by Finnish and Welsh, but not based on them except for
those ideas of agglutinative grammar (and the general shape of the suffixes)
for Finnish and of initial mutations for Welsh. Myself, I'm creating Maggel to
be a language with some Celtic-like resonances (especially Q-Celtic), but not
based on Celtic languages themselves. Rather, I want it to give a little the
feeling that seeing Irish gives to most non-Irish speakers, but multiplied 20
times :)) .
>
> An important thing about Hungarian: I don't know any other languages,
> where the suffix for a word is chosen following phonological rules :)
> When I say: I go to the house: Odamegyek a házHOZ.
> Or: I go to the fridge. Odamegyek a hûtõHÖZ.
> Or: I go to the chair. Odamegyek a székHEZ.
> I tried to use this rule, too, but I'm not able to create so much
> suffixes (at the moment).
>
Other languages using vowel harmony? (that's how it's called) Easy: Finnish and
Estonian (but it's not fair since they are related to Hungarian, in the Uralic
family IIRC :)) ), Turkish and its language family (the Altaic family IIRC,
which have been said to be related to Finnish too, forming a big Uralo-Altaic
family. But this relation is far from being certain, especially since IIRC it's
basically on the phenomenon of vowel harmony and the agglutinative character of
the morphology of those languages that this hypothesis has been based, a little
weak basis), and plenty of other languages all over the world. Vowel harmony,
in plenty of different ways, is quite a common phenomenon accross the world.
> But that's all I think. My problem is that I speak German and English
> and Italian and a little bit of Spanish, so I'm clearly influenced by
> them :) I simply tried to collect all grammatical, phonological,
> ideological etc. things I liked in these languages.
> What do you think?
That it's a good idea :)) .
Christophe.
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