Re: Abugidas (was: Chinese writing systems)
From: | Florian Rivoal <florian@...> |
Date: | Friday, November 8, 2002, 4:46 |
>There have been analyses which suggest that English orthography is
>best considered as partly logographic, yes. (Less because of breaking
>characters into words than because of the retention of the same
>spelling in derived forms which are pronounced differently, though, I
>think.)
intresting point of view.
>Look, we both know how Hangul works. I'm just saying it's possible to
>analyse it this way. None of my definitions of the word "syllabary"
>include the word "atomic". Saying that someone who understands how
>the system works is "tricked" into thinking it's a syllabary is just
>silly.
I didn't know that you knew how it worked.
>Besides, your pointing out that there are elements that describe
>features below the level of the phoneme would by the same logic
>indicate that at least some of the characters aren't alphabetic
>either, but rather collections of featural signs. How can you say
>that <h>+<a>+<n> isn't a syllabic character, and then maintain the
>velar + aspirated _is_ a consonantal character?
I had not seen it that way. What makes me think the main level is alphabetic
(and thus the system should be considered alphabetic) is if you ask a korean
which sign composes his writing system, he will give you a list of the letter,
not the syllable, not of the featural components. The system is percieved
alphabetic by its native users, i believe. But your point of view is quite
intersting too.
>This is true, but irrelevant - I simply point out that each syllable
>has a distinct character.
This is where we disagree. I do not see one hangul syllab as one character, but as
one collection of characters. But know i understand your view, and ok, why not.