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Re: Why Not More Nasals!!!!? (was: Is this a realistic phonology?)

From:FFlores <fflores@...>
Date:Wednesday, March 10, 1999, 0:22
Raymond A. Brown <raybrown@...> wrote:
> Yep: Why not more nasals then voiced > plosives? >
Just for the record, I just found something in a book about Mapuche/Araucano. It says that the language has p, t, k, a co-articulated cluster /tr/ which is sometimes retroflex (!), and also (someone commented about this to Sahla, I think) an interdental t. No aspiration contrast, and no voiced stops either. And the language has five voiced nasals, one of them not corresponding to any of the PsOA above: m, n, n_interdental, n~ (palatal), ng (/N/). You've been talking about nasals when there's a voiced-unvoiced or aspirated-nonaspirated opposition. What happens in this case? According to what I read, there are fricatives in the stops' PsOA, so maybe the language did have a contrast, and then one of the series shifted to fricative (except one: <g> which is not /G/ but a velar approximant). The "influence" of plosive series on nasals has to take phonetic change into account. (Please note that I'm not trying to make a point here, just pointing something out that you may have not seen. An "unusual" phonology regarding the distribution of plosives and nasal might come from a very "usual" previous system. Or maybe they're all possible and we haven't seen them.) --Pablo Flores * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * A study of economics usually reveals that the best time to buy anything is last year. Marty Allen