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Re: 'together vs. to gather'

From:Costentin Cornomorus <elemtilas@...>
Date:Saturday, January 17, 2004, 19:52
--- Philippe Caquant <herodote92@...>
wrote:

> The "action of collecting": what is it else > than putting several things together ?
Keep in mind that the action starts with no things together, and generally goes through gathering one thing together. And the action may be long ongoing before a second thing is in the collection. This is one reason why number doesn't have anything to do with the verb itself.
> That there will be > any result or not does not change the meaning > of the concept.
Quite! This is one thing I said.
> To start collecting and get nothing just > means than you started the activity of > collecting > several things but it somehow failed.
Failure is a judgement outside of our scope.
> You don't start > gathering, or collecting, with the aim of > getting > nothing, neither just one item.
The aim? I never said anything about an aim or a goal! Only you assumed that there is an aim or a goal - I'm saying that the _Action_ itself has no aim and no number implicit. Padraic. ===== â-dim peresatî Zarathustrô: ko-nare ahî? yim azem vîshpahe a&#331;hêuš astvatô sraêštem dâdaresa. â-dim prcchat Jarathustrah: ko nara asi? yam aham vî&#347;vasya âsoh asthivatah &#347;restham dadar&#347;a. ççoç peparcti Çaratostariyyas: his hanaras ossta? icom acâ, alohostanoççexomes, takam maxamâsanar a-hawisesâ. -- Yasna ix -- Ill Bethisad -- <http://www.geocities.com/elemtilas/ill_bethisad> Come visit The World! -- <http://www.geocities.com/hawessos/> .