Re: Referent Tracking
|From:||Carsten Becker <naranoieati@...>|
|Date:||Sunday, November 27, 2005, 21:13|
On Sat, 26 Nov 2005, 19:55 CET, Chris Bates wrote:
[ explanation snipped ]
/me bangs head on the table
I have to read that again when I've got more time -- didn't
> 1) are your triggers the syntactic pivot of the clause?
What is a syntactic pivot? Sorry, but I haven't got Trask on
> 2) what factors are involved in the choice of trigger?
Good question. When doing something quickly, I can't get rid
of always marking the agent as trigger, making it some sort
of subject. When I think a bit harder, I often choose the
patient or an oblique object to be the trigger. As I
understand it, *the* argument of the sentence gets the
trigger that shall be emphasized. Whether this is the topic
or the comment (new info vs. old info) is not set.
> [If you want to read more about trigger vs topic vs
> subject in Tagalog, I suggest you read a paper in the
> Subject and Topic
> Edited by: Charles Li
> If you can get hold of it, that is]
The problem is, I've planned to study after school and
scientific books you usually don't get at the local library.
The only chance to get this is *buying* it at Amazon.
> Oops, you pretty much answered question (1) in your reply
> before, so I guess (2) just remains. But, can I ask...
> does your language try to retain trigger (and thus perhaps
> topic) continuity over long stretches of dialogue?
I haven't yet composed "long streches of dialogue". As long
as both speakers are o fthe opinion that the triggered
argument is still the most important ... I'd say triggering
an argument might last some sentences, but not so very long.
"Miranayam cepauarà naranoaris."
(Calvin nay Hobbes)