Re: USAGE: S. Australian (was: Re: Gz^rod|in)

(quoting from Adrian's reply)

> - Therefore, _gone_ rimes with _loan_?
No. _Loan_ has a dipthong (_liun_ in Gz^rod|in
spelling)

> The dictionaries (both British and American)
> point to the same vowel as in _dot_ as the more
> common pronunciation. But _loan_ must have the
> same vowel as in _boat_ (also present in your
> table), so I'm confused again...
To me, _dot_, _gone_ and _boat_ all have different
vowels (or dipthongs in the case of _boat_).

You can approximate the vowel in _gone_ by
lengthening the vowel in _dot_, but it *is*
different - in much the same way that _ih_ and
_ee_ are similar but different.

Also: you know the vowel that Japanese people
often express to confirm understanding? (An
English speaker would probably say Oh or Ah.)
Well, that vowel is not too far off from the
vowel in _gone_.

If you can get the above two paragraphs to make
sense simultaneously, it's a promising sign :-)

> >> I am not sure about the vowels in _long_,
> >> _dog_, _lock_.
>
> > I'd render these as all the same vowel, and the
> > same as in _bot_.
>
> - That is, the vowels in _long_ and in _law_,
> _talk_ are different?
Yes - the last two are dipthongs.
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Adrian.
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