Greenberg's universals for SVO languages & Caos Pidginruff-sketch

Marcus Smith wrote:

> Jonathon Change wrote:
>
> >    According to Greenberg's Universals (1963) SVO languages are:
>
> [snip universals]
>
> >    etc. (in another words, the "universal" tendency of SVO languages - as
> >opposed to Mandarin and English - is to be right-branching, right/eh?)
> >
> >    Is there any other "universals" or tendencies I should be aware of?
>
> Here's a few more.
>
> -- case is less common, and when present, usually doesn't not follow an
> ergative pattern.
Right -- although I believe the figure is about 25% that show some ergativity,
whether morphological (like Basque) or syntactic (like Dyirbal).

> -- often have definite articles (OV languages tend not to).
...or more precisely, grammaticalize definiteness.  Mam, a language I worked
on, for example, assumes that words will be definite, and marks only singular
and plural indefinite articles.  (Mam is VSO)

> -- demonstratives, numerals, and adjectives follow the noun in that order or
> the opposite order (adj, num, dem)
> -- often have relative pronouns
Comrie has a whole chapter on this in "Language Universals and Linguistic
Typology".  Unfortunately, his prose style is so thick (if precise) that I find it
hard to remember much of what he says.

> -- conjunctions is of the form "X and X" rather than "and X and X" or "X and X
> and", the former is rare, the later is (possibly) unattested.
What about "X and and X" and "and X X and"?  Greek has the former:

    ho anthrôpos te    kai he  kourê.
    the man         and and the maid

This is simply the more emphatic form of "X and X".  "te" here is clitic, so that
might change things a bit.

Greek also has "and X and X".  They wouldn't blink at

    te    anthrôpos kai  kourê
    and man          and maid

This usually comes out in English as "both X and X".

(I'm sure Ray can correct me here.)

> -- prefixes are common for tense, case, etc.  There are always some suffixes
> though.
Always? I would say that has more to do with their being in one of the
midpoints between pure analysis (i.e., isolating languages) and pure synthesis
(purely agglutinating languages).  My friend once joked that he'd hate to have
to learn a purely fusional language, where the logical extreme might be something
like "po" encapsulates everything written by Gauss or something -- literally all
the words.

> -- Subordinate clauses are often finite (e.g., "I want he goes" rather than "I
> want him to go").
Hmm. I suppose that's true, but Greek is a counterexample to this again:

 Atreidêi, nun amme palin plangkhthentas oiô /
    Atreus.PATRO.DAT now us       back wander.AORPASSPART.ACCpl   think.1s
    aps   aponosteisein
    back return.home.INF
    'Son of Atreus, I think we shall return back now, having been driven back...'
 (Homer, Iliad, 1.59-60)

Not that Greek is representative of all languages or anything.

However, virtually all languages have equi-nounphrase deletion, as with infinitive
constructions.  There is one area of the world that doesn't:  the Balkans,
and it's not surprisingly a Sprachbund there.  In those languages, you have to
say "I want that I go" instead of "I want go" or "I want to go", which are more
in keeping with the universal.

> Of course, as somebody pointed out in another message, universals are just
> statistics.  I know of no absolute universals except things like "All
> languages have vowels".
Some have claimed even that's not true.  I read once, somewhere, that there's
a language in Papua New Guinea that has no phonemic vowels -- although I
suspect this to be apocryphal, or a misinterpretation.  Supposedly, it had
epenthetic phonetic schwa surfacing all over the place, but a phonemic form
like "tk" or "ptg" was not a problem.   Were I to hear this in a paper being
presented, I would be tempted to yell out "Pull the other one!"

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