ATR- + vowel-harmony (Re: No Subject)
|From:||taliesin the storyteller <taliesin-conlang@...>|
|Date:||Saturday, February 28, 2004, 21:06|
Hmpf, watch your subjects.
* ThatBlueCat@aol.com said on 2004-02-28 20:51:16 +0100
> I'm revamping one of my old languages, Gweydr, and turning it into
> a, well, good language. Since I had originally intended it to be a
> vowel harmony language (before I actually knew what this was), I
> decided to do two things I'd wanted to do with vowel
> harmony: (1) Create a Finno-Ugric-type vowel harmony system, *and*
> (2) create an [ATR] vowel harmony system.
> I'm having some problems with the ATR system, though. I've run into
> this problem with the low vowels. Low vowels are pretty much
> always transcribed as [-ATR]. This in itself isn't a problem, as
> the two could be opaque to [ATR] harmony. *However*, when they
> came word initially, this means they would cause [-ATR] harmony to
> spread. So, if you had:
> It would surface as:
> I don't like this, and I don't want it. I want low vowels to
> *not* spread [ATR]-ness at *all*.
Why not do like Akan (language of Ghana) and have the low vowels be
neutral as to ATR? Historically, the lone low vowel in Akan did have
both an ATR+ and an ATR- version, but that is no longer the case.
Then over to part two, will the neutral vowel block or pass through
ATR-ness? I can't remember what Akan does but here are examples:
Blocking, spreading rightwards == spreading leftwards
atr + 0 -
Passing, spreading rightwards
atr + 0 +
Passing, spreading leftwards
atr - 0 -