Re: Two questions about Esperanto

And Rosta wrote:

>Dirk:
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>>On Jul 9, 2004, at 8:41 AM, Mark J. Reed wrote:
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>>>Yup, that'd be much more sensible.  That's what I do in transcribing
>>>one
>>>of my conlangs, in fact.  Does any natlang regularly use an orthography
>>>where <j>=/dz/?
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>>Tohono O'odham (spoken in Southern Arizona and adjacent Mexico). Some
>>examples:
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>>cemaj [tS1madZ] 'small'
>>ge'ej [g1?1dZ] 'big'
>>hajuñ [hadZuJ] 'cousin, relative'
>>je'e [dZ1?1] 'mother'
>>ju:k [dZu:k] 'raining'
>>nawoj [nawOdZ] 'friend'
>>wecij [w1tSidZ] '(being) young'
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>In what sense does <j>=/dz/, though? It looks like <j>=/dZ/.
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Well, I know that some artificial orthographies do this.  For instance,
Yamphu, spoken in the Himalayas:

For instance, the word 'khaŋʔinuŋjiæ' [k_hANinuNdzi&].

It is, however, non-phonemic, being an allophone of /ts/.