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Re: mandatory possession in Chasma"o"cho

From:Grandsire, C.A. <grandsir@...>
Date:Friday, October 15, 1999, 7:46
Nik Taylor wrote:
> > "Grandsire, C.A." wrote: > > NOTE 2: When used with an adjective that follows the noun, the adjective > > must also carry the same possessive suffix as the noun, as a kind of > > "agreement in possession". So 'my woodlike ear' (silly example, but I > > can't find another adjective right now) is: > > 'hec roesze"u"thac' /h'Ek ROjs'2T@k/ or > > 'hetarc roesze"u"thutarc' /het'aRk ROjs'2T@t@Rk/ > > Groovy, I was thinking of using something like that in Watakassi'. > Possessive suffixes are used with inalienable possession, but are not > mandatory, and are placed before case and number suffixes, so "my > mothers (ergative)" is _tinnani'kwail_ = tin-nani'-kwa-i-l = > Female.plural-mother-my-plural-erg (mother is often used metaphorically > for ancestresses), while "my houses (ergative)" is _pifsani'lil-kwa_ = > pif-sani'-li-l=kwa = Gender7.plural-house-plural-ergative=my. When > added as inalienable possession, it is pronounced with the high tone > from the word, but when not, is in low tone. > > Anyhoo, I was thinking of making it "agree" when inalienable, so "my old > mother" would be: > tinani'kwa titika'kwa = ti-nani'-kwa ti-tika'-kwa = female-mother-my > female-old-my > But "my old house" would be: > pisani'-kwa pitika' = Gender.7-house=my Gender.7-old >
That is nearly exactly how it works in Chasma"o"cho, except that for not-mnadatorily possessed nouns, when the adjective is after the noun the possessive suffix is put on the adjective, not on the noun (in fact, I borrowed that from the behaviour of the article in Basque and I extended it for all definite suffixes).
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