Theiling Online    Sitemap    Conlang Mailing List HQ    Attic   

Re: [ZBB] Non-core-case pronouns as S in intransitive constructions?

From:David J. Peterson <dedalvs@...>
Date:Tuesday, December 2, 2008, 21:42
I'm not sure how directly relevant it is, but regarding case, and
its...what word do I want...reenvisioning, shall we say, in a
conlang, I strongly recommend taking a look at Matt Pearson's
talk from LCC1:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?
docid=-7308759491555175687&q=language+creation+conference

His handout is here:

http://dedalvs.free.fr/misc/pearson-handout.pdf

-David
*******************************************************************
"sunly eleSkarez ygralleryf ydZZixelje je ox2mejze."
"No eternal reward will forgive us now for wasting the dawn."

-Jim Morrison

http://dedalvs.free.fr/

On Dec 2, 2008, at 1∞34 PM, Carsten Becker wrote:

> Hi, > > As indicated in the header, this is a crossposting from the ZBB¹: > >> Ayeri has kind of a Fluid-S alignment with regards to which cases/ >> roles can act as S in transitive sentences. Up to now however >> intransitive sentences have been restricted to S=A (≙ active >> voice) and S=P (≙ passive voice), but looking at my conlang's >> rather large pronoun table² I wonder whether the non-core-case >> pronouns (in this case the columns after "Patient" although I >> reckon the Benefactive/Dative as core case) could be used just as >> well, and which outcome that might have both semantically and >> syntactically. Are constructions like >> >> Vukyayā. >> Vukya-yā >> stare-1S.LOC >> >> or >> >> Narayasa. >> Nara-yasa >> talk/speak-3SM.CAU >> >> possible and sensible in other languages natural or constructed, >> and if so, how would they be interpreted? Are there any papers or >> Wikipedia articles on this topic (I bet there are)? I could >> imagine the above example sentences to be used as eliptic answers >> to questions, like "I did." in English, but certainly there are >> other uses as well? > > Regards > Carsten > > ¹) http://www.spinnoff.com/zbb/viewtopic.php?t=29699 > ²) http://benung.nfshost.com/index.php? > go=grammar&action=grammar#pronanaph