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Re: Insult (jara: Weekly Vocab 8)

From:Adam Walker <carrajena@...>
Date:Saturday, May 24, 2003, 14:25
--- Stone Gordonssen <stonegordonssen@...>
wrote:
> >I haven't figured it out yet. Which is one of the > >reasons my story about the cloudspirits stalled > out. > >There are only so many stylistically valid ways to > >avoid pronouns and then the text starts *feeling* > >contrived and . . . Well, in my notes I refer to > their > >sexes as alpha, beta, gamma, delta and epsilon. > > Most of the good sci-fi I've read involving more > than two sexes ends up > having to either sacrifice that to being just an > interesting cultural > subnotes or invent pronouns for them. My earliest > memory of a 3-sexed > society was a novel in which the author called them > "demi-males". Marge > Piercey make use of "per" as a non-sexed pronoun in > _Woman on the Edge of > Time_. >
AC Crispin's Starbridge series included a race called something like Elspindor or Esplindor or something that was neuter before puberty (which took only a few days) and she used and pronoun "hin" throughout the tale till the Elspindor character underwent its change and became a male IIRC. I found it non-invasive after only a few pages.
> >And this story has two alphas as main characters > and > >at least mentions characters of ALL the genders. > As > >did that also stalled piece on Alelliawulian > >courtship. > > My only initial problem with naming them "alphas", > "betas", etc. is that I > first think of the alphas, betas, etc in _Brave New > World_. I then think of > social ranking - alphas on top, then betas, etc. > Though I suspect I could > overcome both these these reading a well-written > story. You could borrow the > pronouns for their language, but that too might be > distratcting. >
That'd never occurred to me (maybe because of the degree to which I hated that book) but the Alphas *are* the socially most dominant. They are the leaders. That's why I applied the lable to them. I suppose I *could* use thier native pronouns, but I don't think it would be a really good soultion since they wouldn't *feel* "pronoun-y" to an English speaker. Adam