Re: retroflex consonants (r dept)

Tristan scripsit:

> Having a rounded /Ar/ in American English is something I would expect.
I only say [Qr\] when I am imitating a seal barking.

> But it may be like saying [Oi] for /ai/ [6i] is something Americans
> expect of Australians---something that's simply Not Done.
Most Americans believe that the older New York accent uses [Oi] for /r=/
and [r=] for /Oi/, hence the spellings "thoid" for "third" and "erster"
for "oyster".  In fact, both sounds are /VI/.

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