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Re: retroflex consonants (r dept)

From:John Cowan <jcowan@...>
Date:Wednesday, January 29, 2003, 4:37
Tristan scripsit:

> Having a rounded /Ar/ in American English is something I would expect.
I only say [Qr\] when I am imitating a seal barking.
> But it may be like saying [Oi] for /ai/ [6i] is something Americans > expect of Australians---something that's simply Not Done.
Most Americans believe that the older New York accent uses [Oi] for /r=/ and [r=] for /Oi/, hence the spellings "thoid" for "third" and "erster" for "oyster". In fact, both sounds are /VI/. -- John Cowan <jcowan@...> Yakka foob mog. Grug pubbawup zink wattoom gazork. Chumble spuzz. -- Calvin, giving Newton's First Law "in his own words"