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Re: CHAT: The Conlang Instinct

From:Axiem <axiem@...>
Date:Thursday, December 2, 1999, 5:30
> > That is so interesting! I have thought for a while that my perception of > English may be "non-standard but fully functional." Perhaps we should ask a > new "lefthand/righthand/goatee/hair color/sexual orientation" question: What > is your personal writing style like in your native language? Does it ever > get you into trouble, i.e., do pedantic proofreaders ever give you grief > about perfectly grammatical sentences that run to five clauses or more? > Obviously, as a group we must be very "verbal" people, independent of > "right-brain/left-brain dominance". So I guess we should ask: Do you > consistently and spontaneously do quirky things with your native lang? Did > you do this before you were consciously a conlanger?
Well, for example, I say the plural of 'box' is 'boxen', because 'ox' -> 'oxen', which I am going to try and expand that any noun that ends in a 's' sound (x or s, basically), the plural is formed -en instead of -es, so 'princess' -> 'princessen', 'prince' -> 'princen', etc..as well, I am also trying to say 'will'nt' instead of 'won't' more often :P I also have gotten into fights with my English teacher because I say punctuation goes after quotes (unless it is directly part of the quote). <-- example right there :P Also, before I even knew about conlanging, I thought about forming a group along the lines of the reformation of english group. Cuz I think English is screwey, and needs to be like, standardized so that it is logical. But now that I'm creating my own language, I can leave english alone and focus on di^me'l :) I can do anything I want to it. And on the note of shortening words like 'through', and stuff, I do it a lot in writting and typping because it's quicker. Tho usually I use the full forms, at times it's much easier to type 'u' 'r' '4' '2' 'dc' 'bc' 'dl', and so on, to save time. It's easier :P Anyways, it's generally the way most of the people I associate w/ write and type, so I pick it up from them. Tho usually I like using the full words, but time is fun to save :) Personal writing style, I get greif because I use 'sentance fragments' a lot. Like I say a bunch of stuff, then say "Ergo, foobar", which is not a full sentance (because I don't have a verb...english needs a phrase like "c'est"!) But I generally write the way I talk, since that seems natural (except when my thoughts turn french, then I don't know how to spell anything :P) Although a lot of people tend to get annoyed quand je utilise la fraincais....je ne comprends pas porquoi...personnes cingle'! :P And I did this a lot before I learned about actual conlanging. There was a time, like, 7th grade or so, that I started inventing my own language, but didn't put any effort into it (considering I had no idea how language worked). But now, I can actively learn about things that the grammar books never really explain--I think--or at least I can get a better idea of how the world works through knowing about languages...or something...yah...methinks I've been not getting enough sleep recently...damn chickens..always crossing the road when I want to sleep </lame inside joke that no one'll probably get>
> > On a related but far-fetched subject: At a very early stage of deveplopment > of Asiteya, I had created a verb "yasan" - to dwell. Months later, having > forgotten about its existence, I needed a word for house. Rolling sounds > around on my tongue for a while, I found "yasi" tasted just right. > Unrelated events of creation, related words. It makes me think, perhaps > these languages are already fully formed, deep in the subconscious, waiting > for the intellect to discover them. Has anyone else had expereinces like > this?
Not offhand--though I think the human psyche has kind of, ingrained in it, different sounds conjure different images. Note the word love..it is not a hard word, it is a soft word..methinks it got that way because of association. Kill, maim, destroy, all are kind of 'harsh' sounding, which is the type of things they do :P Of course, I'm sure one could cite counterexamples, but it's an interesting trend. Human psyche. Definately. Ummm...methinks that's about it for this ramble on and on... Ciao. -Axiem -axiem@swbell.net -AIM: Axiem "Ki ki^be kim" "Ne! Ne! Ne! Te' ki^tobe te'm!" "Ki ki^be?" - off of the top of my head. Anyone going to try and wager a guess as to what I said? :P Pretty soon I'll get around to posting a small lexicon of di^me'l...as soon as I figure out what all the possible verb forms *mean*...yah..... Finis.