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From:Mangiat <mangiat@...>
Date:Sunday, April 22, 2001, 11:45
Henrik wrote:


> Accusative case marking: > > Peter[A] runs. > Peter[A] freezes. > > Here, A is called nominative case and B is called accusative case. > So `he', in both intransitive sentences, is marked with nominative > case (like the subject of the transitive sentence above). > > Ergative case marking: > > Peter[B] runs. > Peter[B] freezes. > > Here, A is called absolutive case and B is called ergative > case. So `he' is marked with absolutive case (like the object > of the transitive sentence).
Shouldn't this be: A = ergative B = absolutive ? Luca
> Active case marking: > > Peter[A] runs. > Peter[B] freezes. > > Here, A is called agentive case and B is called patientive case. > In the first sentence, Peter is clearly the agent, while in the > second, he is not. There are different views on what is > considered and agent. > > Additionally, for these languages, the case marking in clauses is > typically not even fixed in transitive sentences. > > Also note that many language are not clearly one or the other. E.g. > from two accusative langages: > > German: Peter[nom] schlägt Paul[acc]. > Peter[nom] hits Paul[acc]. > > but: Mich[acc] friert. (old fassioned) > I[nom] am cold. > > and: Mir[dative] ist kalt. > I[nom] am cold. > > > Icelandic: > Mig[accusative] thyrsta. > I[nominative] am thirsty. > > In the archives, there surely are many discussions about every detail > of this. > > **Henrik

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daniel andreasson <daniel.andreasson@...>a few questions