|From:||Muke Tever <hotblack@...>|
|Date:||Sunday, July 18, 2004, 3:11|
On Thu, 15 Jul 2004 22:28:08 +0100, And Rosta <a.rosta@...> wrote:
>> Yeah, Wikipedia really isn't the place for stuff like that. Unless a
>> conlang develops a community of speakers, or is used in a published work
>> of fiction, or makes some sort of impact beyond simply existing that
>> would make it an encyclopedic topic, it really doesn't belong on
>> Wikipedia. Some editors are quick to put anything that looks like a
>> vanity article on VfD.
> My first reaction on seeing Philip's mention of the VfD status was
> annoyance at encountering yet another instance of the insufferable
> and ignorant disdain with which conlangs are widely treated.
It's not just conlangs. Wikipedia has this attitude towards all kinds of
small-scale projects--the issues I've run across most often are
conlangs/concultures, micronations, and garage bands. This issue is just
now being raised on the sister project Wiktionary, where the effect is
different: instead of an arguably negligible one-page description, you
get an effect covering possibly hundreds of pages, incorporation into
translation lists, and possibly a whole stack of meta pages (an
Interlingua-clone called Romanica wedged itself in this way awhile back).
This isn't, of course, necessarily a bad thing...
Anyway, personally I didn't feel my conlangs belonged on either
project, and that's why I set up the wiki on frath.net -- for people to
present such things (well, not garage bands) in a similar environment.
Since it's not an "encyclopedia" or a "dictionary", you can do more stuff
with the wiki format: detailed grammatical description, phrasebooks,
tutorials, whatever you're comfortable with. </hype>
*Muke! [still catching up on a week's worth of missed messages]
 My langs tend to be too volatile to integrate into Wiktionary, and I
don't expect to be in an encyclopedia till I'm either famous or dead.
http://frath.net/ (my website)
http://wiki.frath.net/ (conlangs and concultures)