A note about Wenetaic Roots (Re: The Magical Tree (Translation project))
From: | Paul Bennett <paul.bennett@...> |
Date: | Thursday, September 23, 1999, 9:18 |
Padraic writes:
>>>>>>
On Wed, 22 Sep 1999, Paul Bennett wrote:
> of Indo-european langs. There's a special prize (inna bun) for anyone
Does it perhaps bear a striking similarity to something that might just
be labelled "Miscellaneous Pork-like Product"? Makes me eyes water, that
does!
<<<<<<
WHAT?!?!?! Not content with a special prize, you actually want to know which
particular species it's supposed to resemble????
>>>>>>
> who can deduce the etymologies of them, with some plausible sound-change
> rules.
I'll take a stab at a few. I don't recognise much of the morphology (I
guess this is supposed to be the case?) Remind me: is Wenetaic an IE
lang? Or a nonIE lang whose vocabulary seems to about 80% or more IE?
<<<<<<
It's sposed to be IE. More or less. The morphology is supposed to be fairly
non-IE.
You've actually derived my roots from much older sources than I did. I'll try
and explain myself, giving the full paradigm for the first couple (until you get
into the swing of things), and the source that I derived them from.
>so- appears to be from saawel- or perhaps sun-
The root is so-, soslu-, solsu-, solosu- from a dictionary form so(lu)
Actually from Latin
>pukhtu- from bheug- (swell)
putu-, pukhtu-, putkhu-, putukhu-, dictionary form putu(kh) (L. fruct-)
>phorophe- from bher- (bear)
phore-, phophre-, phorphe-, phorophe- (PIE. bher-)
>phowphe"- maybe a reduplication of pooi- (graze)
dict form. phowe" (L. -phorus, E. -vore)
>wece- from wet- (year)
This came from (I think) Italian, or maybe French. I don't recall.
>pato- perhaps from pu- (rot, decay)
>patapo- perhaps from pu- (rot, decay)
Greek. paTo- in E. pathology, etc
>mamnu- from man- (man)
Dictionary/(NS) form manu, from Proto-World
>pukhupi- from peuk- (prick; whence pugilist)
Dictionary/(NS) form pukhu. I don't remember the derivation of this. Probably
from "pugilist".
>wiwkhi- perhaps associated with wen- (strive for, whence win)
Dictionary form wikhi (L. victus)
>muro- from mei- (build fortifications)
Yep. (It. muro)
>makhe- from meg- (great)
Yep.
>moru- from mer- (harm; die)
Yep. The Dictionary form is moru(t).
>kapke- from kap- (grasp)
Yep. Dictionary/(NS) form is kape.
>I wonder if phomu- is in some way related to Latin pomum.
From German "Baum", I don't know why.
>-ne from ne (not)
Yep. I just pulled a random syllable starting /n/ out of the air.
>a- perhaps from ad- (near, at)
>o- perhaps from al- (beyond)
>yi- from ghee- (go away)
I thought I'd simply invented these. Now I know better :-)
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Pb
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