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Re: I Should've Been Asleep Two Hours Ago...

From:Mark J. Reed <markjreed@...>
Date:Sunday, April 25, 2004, 6:32
On Sat, Apr 24, 2004 at 05:23:30PM -0500, Iain E. Davis wrote:
> > From: David Peterson [mailto:ThatBlueCat@AOL.COM] > > > What would be even cooler is if someone who was math savvy > > could figure out how to manipulate the code so that it could > > be applied to different calendrical (?) systems. So, for > > ...different calendar systems... (I believe that's the way it would be > said.)
"Calendrical" is a perfectly valid word, and is in fact part of the title an excellent book on how different calendars work and how to convert dates among them: _Calendrical_Calculations_ by Reingold and Dershovitz.
> > a way to manipulate it so you could get 14. But even that > > should be easier than, say, a system where each week was > > composed of four days, or maybe each year was composed of > > five weeks. If there's anybody who knows how to do this kind > > of thing, I'd love to see it done.
The easiest thing is to start by throwing away everything except the day, and then build up from there. Calendars amount to a system for providing a name for each day. Most of them do so by grouping days into larger units, and those units are determined by astronomy: a week is 7 days because of the 7 visible planets; a month was originally the time for the moon to go through all of its phases and come back to where it started; and of course, a year is the time it takes to go through the cycle of seasons. So if your conculture is based on Earth, it would probably have similar units. If it's on another planet, however, then you have to decide what cyclic phenomena they would base their calendrical system(s) on. The historical development is something like this: first days are counted, and grouped into somewhat arbitrary divisions. The 7-day week originated in Babylonia and was, as I said, due to the 7 visible "planets" in the night sky; other cultures used different numbers of days (the Romans had an 8-day cycle, for instance). The next thing that happens is the recognition that the moon takes 29 or 30 days to go from new moon to new moon (or full to full or first quarter to first quarter). So the culture starts counting moons. Once they have conceptualized the moon as a chunk of time, they have the tools to notice that the seasons return after 12 moons, giving rise to the 12-month year. Unfortunately, a true lunar month is only about 29.5 days, so 12 of them only add up to 354 days, which isn't quite a full year. Dealing with this discrepancy is where calendar inventors start getting creative. Once you get to the point where the discrepancy is noticed, you have basically three types of calendar systems: 1. Purely lunar, in which months are based on the moon and years are 12 such months long. Since the calendar year is shorter than the tropical year by about 11 days, the seasons migrate through the calendar, taking about 33 years to come full circle. If we had such a calendar and spring began in March this year, then in three years it'd begin in April, then in three more years it'd begin in May, etc. However, you'd never need to mark the phases of the moon on the calendar because the new moon would always be on the 1st of the month, the full moon on the 15th. The Islamic calendar is of this type. 2. Purely solar, in which the year is based on the seasons and the month is just 1/12 of the solar year. Our calendar is of this type. 3. Lunisolar, in which months are lunar and years are solar; the difference is made up by adding extra months ("leap months") periodically. The Chinese and Hebrew calendars are of this type. Orthogonal to the above classification is another one: calendars can be "arithmetic", which means they're based on a simple rules governing repeating cycles that approximate the astronomical phenomena, or "observational", which means that the calendar is tied to the actual astronomical events. Our calendar is arithmetic. If it were observational, then instead of having a leap year every 4 years, we'd have one whenever we needed to in order to keep the March equinox on the 20th of the month. That would be *about* every 4 years, but every once in a while it'd be 3 or 5 years instead, and the only way to know for sure if a given year were a leap year would be to look in an almanac (or do some fairly computationally intense math to calculate the time between equinoxes yourself). The Hebrew calendar is arithmetic, although it's one of the more complex arithmetic calendars. The Chinese calendar is observational - the month begins on the date of the new moon in Beijing, and leap years happen whenever there are 13 lunar months between winter solstices. The Islamic calendar is also observational - but literally; a month only ends after 29 days if the appointed religious official actually sees the new crescent moon in the sky at sunset. Otherwise the month is 30 days long. Since crescent visibility depends on a lot of factors that are not completely predictable, like weather, Islamic calendars prepared in advance are only approximate. -Mark

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