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Re: sound change question

From:Sylvia Sotomayor <kelen@...>
Date:Monday, July 21, 2003, 5:33
On Sunday 20 July 2003 10:23 pm, Roger Mills wrote:
> Thomas Wier wrote: > > > Quoting Sylvia Sotomayor <kelen@...>: > > > > > So, Kélen has five stops: > > > p (labial) t (dental) ts* (alveolar) c (palatal) k
(velar)
> > > (*ts is often just [s] but is still counted as a stop.) > > > I've been contemplating some sound change with the goal of getting
rid
> > > of [p]. Which would be more reasonable?: > > > > > > p t ts c k becoming > > > k t ts c q or becoming > > > kw t ts c k > > > > I think probably the first set, where *p becomes /k/. Arapaho > > underwent a similar process on its way from Proto-Algonkian. > > It's reasonable to think that a pull-chain effect might have > > started with *k becoming [q], leaving an opening for *p to fill. > > It's an unusual change, but I know of no natural language that > > would take *p and turn it into [kw] -- quite the opposite change > > would be expected. > > Agreed. Evidently you want to keep it as a stop; my first thought was
for
> it to > fricative [P] or [f], then/or > h, then/or 0. All widely
attested.
>
That is possible, though I'm getting rid of [m], too. [w] will stay, however. I'm thinking of turning [l] or maybe [r] into something else as well. Any ideas? -- Sylvia Sotomayor sylvia1@ix.netcom.com kelen@ix.netcom.com Kélen language info can be found at: http://home.netcom.com/~sylvia1/Kelen/kelen.html This post may contain the following: á (a-acute) é (e-acute) í (i-acute) ó (o-acute) ú (u-acute) ñ (n-tilde)

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