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Re: Noun and noun or noun

From:Sylvia Sotomayor <sylvia1@...>
Date:Monday, May 24, 1999, 16:05
At 10:07 AM 5/20/99 +0200, Joshua Shinavier <Ajshinav@...> wrote:
>>Sylvia Sotomayor wrote: >> Maintaining a collective plural gets to be interesting when dealing with >> abstract nouns, and I would tell you more, but I haven't worked it all out >> yet. > >I'd be interested to hear what you've got so far. Arove"n tends to shy away >from plurals for abstract topics. For instance, two "thoughts" together are >also a thought, singular, although a more complex one; if they are thought >separately or deliberately kept apart in some way then you use the plurals. >
Well, one thought was to turn them into actions. One feature of Kelen is that it doesn't have the grammatical category of verb. But, semantically, there are still a number of action words. When I was much younger, I read too many books on Zen for Westerners, and I still vaguely remember this concept of a 'thing-event'. So, when trying to figure out what a collective plural could be, this concept came back to me. I'm not sure if Kelen is actually going to do this, but, in the meantime, here are some possible examples: ja soun = a thought ne soun = many thoughts an soun = thinking, or maybe the conscious mind. hmmm. ja ra = a step ne ra = many steps an ra = motion, movement, going ja kiuw = a touch, a tap ne kiuw = many taps an kiuw = touching, feeling, etc. Like I said, I'm still thinking about this. Sylvia Sylvia Sotomayor