Re: Hressa-Hlab (was: Re: Martian conlangs?)

On Sun, 9 Mar 2003 12:28:20 +0100 Andreas Johansson <andjo@...>
writes:
> Quoting Pavel Iosad <edricson@...>:
> > Hello,
> > > > Incidentally, "hnau" is the most useful word ever.
> > > It is a most excellent word!
> > There's also Quenya _Mirroanwi_, meaning *roughly* the same.
> I can no longer stand this thread without inserting the Steienzh
> expression
> _ñerzez_ ['NErz@z] "thinking one; conscious being". I once used
> Tairezazh
> _nerzedh_ ['nErzED] for the same meaning (in a relay I think),
> altho' unless
> it's got lexicalize could more guideline-abidingly be _nerzel_
> "thinker".
>                                                    Andreas
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And AFMCL... ;-)
Especially since Quenya was mentioned before, i think i'll mention that
Rokbeigalmki has a word for "sapient being", and it's |kwened|, borrowed
from Proto-Elvish |kwene| (person, 'user of articulate speech') with
either possible confusion with P-E |kwende| (elf) or the addition of |-d|
by analogy with |mald| (human)... Eventually, |-d| becomes Rokbeigalmki's
'sapient species' marker:
KWENED = sapient being (in general, regardless of species)
MALD = human
KFEND / PWEND = elf
URKUD = orc
BEIJAMBAD = beijabar (human/bear shapechanger, like Beorn)
KOOZD = dwarf

In Rokbeigalmki language-ideology, the |-d| at the end of these words is
associated with the |-dh| agentive noun ending.

So where did the Quenya |mirroanwi| come from?  Did |*kwene| and
|*kwende| merge, so they needed a new word?


-Stephen (Steg)
 "she has two arms to hold me,
  four legs to wrap around me;
  she's not your typical girlfriend -
  she's my alien..."
     ~ 'my alien' by simple plan

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