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Re: OT: God's loaded dice (was Re: semi-OT: Re: "defense of wilderness" (wasRe: lexicon))

From:J Y S Czhang <czhang23@...>
Date:Tuesday, June 10, 2003, 2:54
In a message dated 2003:06:09 09:33:35 AM, Nik Taylor
(yonjuuni@EARTHLINK.NET) writes:

>J Y S Czhang wrote: >> Hmmm, God as Cosmic Con-Artist and Ultimate Trickster! ROTFLMAO... > >The Old Faith of the Kassii included the belief that when one dies, >their soul plays a game of chance with the Goddess of Death to determine >what they'll be in their next life. However, she's not the most honest >deity. :-)
Nice touch to a conculture/conlang... In the American education system's social studies classes, we are only taught about democracy, socialism, fascism and communism - glossing over or even disregarding tribalism, capitalistic libertarianism, anarchism, etc. ...and when most people in America think of types of religious worldviews they only think of/in terms of monotheism, agnosticism, atheism and paganism/polytheism. There is much more variety in the world... & being the hyperintellectual monkeybrainies that I am, that's the way I like... uh huh, uh huh :) With this in mind, I repost these somewhat brief notes I have compiled. Fodder for both conlang lexico-LOGOS-semantics and conCULTure cult-ivating ;) ----------------------------------------------------------------------- ~> the Godhead * of each of our own understandings * “godhead” = the God-Reality NOTE: throughout this section, you may replace the words “religion” & “religious” with the less loaded words “spirituality” & “spiritual.” Carl Gustav Jung wrote, "Nobody can know what the ultimate things are. We must, therefore, take them as we experience them. And if such experience helps to make your life healthier, more beautiful, more complete and more satisfactory to yourself and to those you love, you may safely say: 'This was the grace of God.'" Jung also wrote," If you should find in ineradicable tendency to believe in God or immortality, do not allow yourself to be disturbed by the blather of so-called 'free-thinkers'; but if you find in yourself an equally resistant tendency to deny all religious ideas, do not hesitate to deny them and see how that suits you." "...divine chaos ...rumors of chaos have been known to enhance the mature religious vision.... for the godhead manifests no more of its reality than the limited grammar of each person's imagination and conceptual system can handle. A second advantage is suggested by William James in _Varieties of Religious Experience_. James affirms the possibilty of many gods, mostly because he takes seriously his multiverse theory of personal monads, each one of us experiencing a unique religious revelation. An orderly monistic and monotheistic system, he fears, might succumb to a craving for logical coherence, and trim away some of the mystery, rich indeterminancy, and tragic ambiguity in a complete numinous experience. For some temperaments, the ambivalent gentleness and savagery of fate can be imagined effectively in a godhead split into personified attributes, sometimes at war, sometimes in shifting alliance." ~ Vernon Ruland, Eight Sacred Horizons: The Religious Imagination East and West In another words, the Godhead as Multiple Personality ;) ________________________________
>>> JUST A FEW OF THE INFINITE WAYS -Commonly Known & Otherwise - OF
CONCEPTUALIZING THE GODHEAD (or God-Reality): NOTE: some of the following concepts have much overlapping, i.e. it is possible to be a monotheistic dualist, a pluralistic therianthropotheistic animist or a non-dualistic henotheistic polytheistic panentheist... atheism - belief & arguement that there is no god or gods agnosticism - skepticism to whether god or gods exist or not, that such metaphysical speculations, ideas & concepts are neither provable or unprovable deism - belief in a "God" who initiated Creation and set its mechanistic/scientific laws in place, allowing Creation to pursue its own course or evolution (hence the metaphor of "God" being a "Watchmaker Supreme" and Creation a "Clockwork Cosmos") physitheism/transcendentalism - belief in "God" based on the arguement for God's existence based purely on determinate and/or aesthetic experience of the natural world, esp'ly of its order, purposiveness and beauty monotheism/monolatry - belief & worship of one & only one "God" - "a personal, loving, good God" - usually male - who freely created all that exists out of nothing & who continues to preserve & control it; doctrines/dogmas related to those belief systems (i.e. Judaism, Christianity and Islam) anthropotheism/anthropomorphism/anthropolatry - belief conceiving "God" or gods in human imagery and/or terms, attributing human qualities to the Godhead - "Man created God in His Own Image." From the ancient Egyptian Stela 797, inscribed during the reign of Pharaoh Sabakos (about 8th c. BCE), repeating a much older text from about the year 2850 BCE: "Every divine word came into existence by the thought of the heart and the commandment of the tongue. When the eyes see, the ears hear, and the nose breathes, they report to the heart. It is the heart that brings forth every issue, and the tongue that repeats the thought of the heart. Thus were fashioned all the gods, from Atum [the first Egyptian deity] on." Alexander Eliot writes, "Thus one of the most ancient paragraphs in the present possession of mankind likens the Creator of all things to the creative heart of man himself.” polytheism - belief & worship of many gods & goddesses... the gods came out of the primal Chaos/Void, and from the gods came the essences of all things - some gods giving essences to some things, others to different things --- good & evil, war & peace, mart & knowledge, etc.. Humans contain the essences of all the gods. Hence there is war amongst the gods even as there is war with/in/amongst humans ... "All men have need of the gods." ~ Homer [One approach to polytheism in modern psychological/spiritual terms is to see the gods as archetypes, character trait ideals, aspects of the Godhead we seek to imitate or be possessed by, etc.] kathenotheism - belief & worship of one god after another in succession, treated - for the moment - as the only god or avatar of the Godhead henotheism - belief & adoption of a particular god, while allowing that other gods exist - usually within a polytheistic belief system (i.e. some major popular forms of Hinduism) animism/animotheism/zootheism - the belief that all appearances - esp'ly living/sentient appearances - are animated by spirits (usually animal-like) OR made vital by a supernatural power, an "Anima" (Latin for "Spirit") "If oxen, lions and horses had hands with which to make images, they would fashion gods after their own shapes and give them bodies like their own." ~ Xenophanes therianthropotheism - belief & worship of gods represented in combined human and animal forms (i.e. Ancient Egyptian religion) --- Panentheists and pantheists share the view that the universe and every natural thing in it is pervaded by divinity: pantheism (from _pan_ "all" + theism)- Pantheists believe that the universe itself is divine. They do not believe in personal or creator gods; they believe that the Godhead exists in everything - that that the godhead & the world are essentially identical; the divine is "world-inclusive," totally immanent (*) ^ * immanence - the presence and/or actions of god/gods in the world, usually with a distinction between the presence and the actions. At one extreme, the total transcendence of the Godhead has no relation to Creation. At the other extreme, Creation is a mode of Godhead's self-manifestation, and thus is the 'body' of the Godhead. Most theistic religions allow varying degrees of immanence between these extremes. - another crucial difference of all these different “godhead-views”: DUALISM/PLURALISM - the conjunction of two (usually opposing) entities or principles. [a.] (philosophy) belief & theory that in any domain of reality there are two independent underlying principles, e.g. mind & matter, form & content, etc. [b.] (theology, usually monotheistic) the belief & theory that unchanging forces of good and evil are - more or less - equally balanced in the universe. But change and flux are facts of life throughout the divine cosmos. So are the risks on earth of human destructiveness, disease, accident, collision with meteorites and so on. It is true that these attributes of the universe and nature are not compatible with pre-conceived ideas about God as an unchanging, perfect, loving being. But pantheism does not believe in such a God, and accepts the universe as it is - wonderful, mysterious, creative, exuberant, joyful, and yet also at times chaotic and destructive. Evil and pain exist for theists too, and they are extremely difficult to reconcile with the idea of an omnipotent, yet loving God. Christian apologetics have still not come up with any satisfactory explanation of why God should have created them. NON-DUALISM/MONISM - belief & theory that everything in existence, in the Cosmos, is a holistic unity & that perceptions or ideas of difference & division are “illusionary.” (Concepts of “good” & “evil” are situational & less clear-cut than in dualistic systems of belief: “One man’s meat is another’s poison.”... “The road to hell is paved with good intentions.”) panentheism (pan-en-theos means "all-in-God" - that is, the universe is contained within God or the Godhead) - belief in all gods & all gods being merely finite aspects of the infinite Godhead (thus all statements & views of the Godhead are - in a sense - both true AND false, that the multi-personal-itied, multi-versal Godhead is many things to many people); belief that the Godhead exists in everything AND transcends everything, that the Godhead is both totally immanent AND totally transcendent - both world-inclusive AND world-transcending. The Godhead is "dipolar" - encompassing such contraries as absoluteness & relativity, one & many, being & non-being, necessity & contingency, eternity & temporality, destruction & creation, positive & negative, male & female, divine & profane, impersonal & personal, etc. ad infinitum googolplexplex plus plus ... the Godhead is perfect being, not unchanging, but capable of being excelled by nothing other than the GodheadSelf: change, not permanence, is the fundamental nature of both the Godhead and reality. In another words, both changeless and changing perfection. “Panentheists believe in a Godhead that is present in everything but also extends beyond the universe. In other words, the Godhead is greater than the universe. Unlike pantheism, however, it does not say that the universe is identical to God; it maintains that there is more to God than just the universe. Panentheism says that all is in God, somewhat as if God were the ocean and we were fish. If one considers what is in God's body to be part of God, then we can say that God is all there is and then some. The universe is God's body, but God's awareness or personality is greater than the sum of all the parts of the universe. All the parts have some degree of freedom in co-creating with God.... [To put it simply, both God and the cosmos are interdependent “entities” of creativity.] “... Panentheism gives all that one could want: an all-encompassing, growing, perfect God, everywhere present and containing everywhere within himself; and the reality of oneself and others, freely deciding within God, responding to God's overtures in the process of co-creation. Theism denies that the world (including us) shares in God's being. Panentheism recognizes that everything shares God's being (or becoming) but that God's being operates from innumerable relatively freely-choosing centers or perspectives of existence. God and the world, which is God's body, are interdependent. To be is to be free, to be choosing, and to be enjoying (slightly or greatly, positively or negatively) the process of selecting from among competing influences. To be doing this is to be alive. To be doing it with the complexity of performing these tasks self-consciously, rationally, purposefully is to be doing it as a person. To have perfect awareness of all this, perfect memory, love, and preservation of it, and to be giving perfect guidance to the others who are involved in the process is to be the only perfect person, God.” ~§~ LILA <from Sanskrit> = "Divine Play" - the 'joyous exercise of spontaneity involved in the art of creation' (Sarvepalli Radhakrishnan) ...the play of creation, destruction, and re-creation, the folding and unfolding of the cosmos...both the delight and enjoyment of this moment, and the play of [the] God[head]. WHIM = 1a. a sudden fancy; a caprice. b. capriciousness. 2. a kind of windlass for raising ore or water from a mine. [17th century: origin unknown] WHIMSY (plural forms: WHIMSIES, WHIMSEYS) = 1. a whim; a capricious notion or fancy. 2. capricious or quaint humour. [related to WHIM-WHAM] Italian capriccio, French boutade WHIM-WHAM = a toy or plaything --- Hanuman Zhang (aka "Z") WOG (Wiley Oriental Gentleman ;) Avatar of Sun WuKong, a.k.a _Ma-Lau_ ("Monkey") a.k.a. "TricksterGod of the Glorious Anti-Imperialist Chinese Boxers"; ¡¡¡ TricksterShapeShifterIncarnate !!! >^..^< ';' ;P~~~ <= thee prIs ov X.iztenz iz aetern'l warfaer 'N' kreativ playf'llnizz... => => om hung hanumatay rudratmakai hung phat <= mantra to Hanuman the Hindu Monkey TricksterGod
>Finally a religious statement I can agree with: > >the Zoroastrian teaching that it is a sin for a person to be boring.
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