Re: "Strong Verb/Ablauted Verb" Society?

On 18 Feb 2005, at 11.20 am, Mark J. Reed wrote:

> I have never heard of such a thing, but I think it's a marvelous idea.
> Where shall we start?  bring/brang/brung? :)
Dive/dove/diven :) Type/tope/typpen. Increase/incrose/incrosen. This is
fun!

> On Thu, Feb 17, 2005 at 11:50:06PM +0000, Bryan Parry wrote:
BTW, Brian, when you start a new thread on mailing lists, it's a good
idea to use the New button rather than the Reply function. Replying
does more than just copying the message text with > and giving you a
subject; it also adds various headers to the mail so that mailers can
track threads even between subject header changes. Many people will
have a throden :) message list, and this email came up as a subthread
of 'Piraha, was Re: Introducing myself, and several questions' (by
Amateur Linguist@AOL.com) for me, rather than as a top-level. If I (or
someone else) was ununterest in the Piraha thread, we might've missen
this one.

>> Does anyone here know of a group dedicated to
>> increasing the number of strong or ablauted verbs in
>> English?
No I haven't. It seems an odd thing to do---but it's fun! :)

>> I posted a thread at Zompist.com trying to regularise
>> and put English irregular verbs in ablaut or strong
>> classes, and in doing so, expand those classes.
>> However my cries have fallen on deaf ears (I believe
>> some of the other folks there just simply do not "get"
>> what I am about).
Well... With my words, here is a grouping... Obviously I've not used
that many classes, so I've tried to create a few extras I didn't use
above. Irregular verbs marked with asterisks. Sometimes I might be
wrong, I'm trying to extrapolate from a table of OE classes so they're
guessesish.

I. to Dive (dove, diven); to Type; to Miss
IIa. to Lose (loase, loasen)
IIb.
IIIa. to Interest (anterest, unterest); to Bring
IIIb. to Tell (teal, toln)
IIIc. to Care (core, corn)
IV. (presumably merges with VI, as steal~stole~stolen (IV) vs
      OE bacan~boc~bacen > *bake~*boke~*boken (VI)
IVb. to Time (tame, toumen)
V. (presumably merges with VI, as speak~spoke~spoken (V))
VI. to Increase (incroase, incroasen); to Thread* /Tred/ not /TrIid/
VIIa. to Wait (weet, waiten)
VIIb. to Snow (snew, snown), to Show


>> So yeah, it is eccentric, it is mad,
Which differs from anything else how :)

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Tristan.