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Re: Star Trek conlangs besides Klingon and Romulan

From:Padraic Brown <pbrown@...>
Date:Monday, December 21, 1998, 3:29
On Sun, 20 Dec 1998, Tim Smith wrote:

> According to Marc Okrand, the extensive Vulcan dialog in the first movie was > not actually a "real" conlang. The scenes were shot in English and later > overdubbed with nonsense syllables devised by a linguist (not Marc) to > match, or nearly match, the lip movements of the English, so that the > overdubbing would look "real". (There's a technical term for this, but I've > forgotten it.)
How about "Cheesy, slipshod not-a-clue-in-the-universe it's-too-late- to-do-anything-about-it-now production trickery"?
> There have been several fannish attempts to invent a Vulcan language. (I've > seen one of them; it looked to me like crudely relexified Japanese.) But > none of them have any relation to the "Vulcan" dialog in the movies.
This didn't happen to be the Starfleet Academy Training Manual "Vulcan Language Guide", would it? I wish I could find that little Japanese dictionary that this work seems to be lifted from; but alas I fear it lost somewhere. And of course I don't know any Japanese, so can't comment on it substantively.
> > Someone on this list has done some work on a Ferengi conlang, and I think > also on a Cardassian one. But I can't remember who; it's been a long time > since he posted anything about either of them.
I wasn't aware that either of these had been discussed here. I know that out in Webland somewhere, someone has made a rather extensive attempt at Ferengi. Padraic.
> Tim Smith