Re: Minhyan & the goddess of conlangs
From: | David Peterson <thatbluecat@...> |
Date: | Wednesday, September 1, 2004, 4:21 |
Jeffrey wrote:
<<Minhyan does not have a nominative-accusative case system (as most
Indo-European languages do) but an active-stative system: the agent of the
verb is always in the agentive case and the patient of the verb is always in
the patientive case. (In a nominative-accusative case system, the patient
of the intransitive verb is in the nominative case.)>>
What you describe sounds like a standard ergative-absolutive system. For
it to be like your terminology suggests, you'd need the following:
(1) The man-ACT. eats pizza-PAT.
(2) The man-ACT. ran.
(3) The man-PAT. appeared yesterday.
Some questions that remain...
(4) The man-? loves the dog-?.
(5) The man-? seems upset to the woman-?.
(6) The man-? cried (on purpose vs. on accident?).
Also, these can actually be done a number of ways:
(7) I-ACT. asked my father-? for money-?.
(8) I-ACT. gave the man-? a house-?.
I got these last two from an article which can be downloaded
here:
http://ling.ucsd.edu/~djp/ling142/misc/clausetypes.pdf
It details different types of accusative and ergative languages.
But for an active language, let's go to good ol' _Describing
Morphosyntax_...
Page 145 talks about Lakhota. It sounds like what you're
talking about. Guaymi as well on page 145 and 146.
Chicasaw, page 148, has a three way system, so it's (without
duplicating the Chicasaw parts):
I-Marker1 act good. (Volitional.)
I-Marker2 am good. (Non-volitional.)
I-Marker3 feel good. (Experiencer.)
So do any of these come close to how your system works?
-David
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