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Insular Celtic mutations (was: Consonant harmony (and intro))

From:Ray Brown <ray.brown@...>
Date:Tuesday, July 19, 2005, 5:51
On Monday, July 18, 2005, at 07:10 , Elliott Lash wrote:
>> Actually, Welsh doesn't have a hard mutation. It >> has a soft, an >> aspirated, and a nasal mutation. And I'm not sure >> you could call it >> consonant harmony, since it's grammatical, not >> phonetic. > > it has some traces of "hard" mutation, in Adjectives > Degrees > > Equitive Comparative Superlative > caredig > carediced caredicach caredica(f) > tlawd > tloted tlotach tlota(f) > gwlyb > gwlyped gwlypach gwlypa(f)
Yep - I was going to make the same point in my last reply, but decided not to bother. As far as initial consonant mutations are concerned, Joe is correct.
> And I think is some verbs in certain forms the same > sort of thing happens (g > c, d > t, b > p)
Not so certain about that, but you may be right. The hard mutation affects only /b/, /d/ and /g/ causing them to become voiceless. Although it is not found as initial mutation in Welsh, it is found initially in its sister languages Cornish & Breton, both of which BTW lack the nasal mutation of Welsh. But the consonant mutations of the Insular Celtic langs, interesting tho they are, are not examples of consonant harmony. Ray =============================================== =============================================== MAKE POVERTY HISTORY