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Re: A Few More

From:Rob Haden <magwich78@...>
Date:Thursday, April 13, 2006, 14:53
On Wed, 12 Apr 2006 17:40:43 -0700, Jeff Jones <jsjonesmiami@...> wrote:

>13. mofkanhak > I saw you there.
_mo-_: 2(sg/pl) transitive object? This does not mesh with your earlier implicit rules, whereby _-tz(i)_ denoted a 1pl object (i.e. a *suffix*, not a prefix). _-ha_: distal locative suffix ("there")
>14. akkanfa tuperu > The dogs see.
_-fa_: 3pl transitive subject
>15. kanfa mamatz > Our mother is seen.
Okay, now _-fa_ looks like a passive suffix. If so, then sentence #14 should be "The dogs are seen", not "The dogs see". _-tz(i)_: 1pl possessive suffix (when added to a noun)
>16. fetxa mamak pakanhakwe peru > My mother wanted to see dogs there.
_-k(o)_: 1sg possessive suffix
>17. koftlasli > He gave me them.
_ko-_: 1sg indirect object? _tla_: give _-sli_: 3pl transitive object?
>18. kenfotla patta Hwan > Juan wanted to give us potatoes.
Err... you're confusing your own grammar rules. It should be: Tzifotla Hwan patta.
>19. pitlaxili peru > They'll give them to a dog.
Alright, so indefinite number is unmarked. _-xili_: This seems to be glossed as "them", but note the different suffix _-sli_ above, with the *same* verb.
>20. etxak patlam peru Hwan > I want you to give Juan a dog.
This sentence is ambiguous, since _peru Hwan_ could also mean "Juan's dog". I suggest you revise it.
>I hope I haven't made any mistakes this time. There's at least one >morpheme with two forms.
Shouldn't you know your own language best? :) - Rob