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Re: Relative frequency of ejectives

From:Steven Williams <feurieaux@...>
Date:Friday, May 26, 2006, 17:42
--- Alex Fink <a4pq1injbok_0@...> schrieb:

> David says on the Kalusa comment forum that | [k']
is
> rare, as far as ejectives go. Certainly more common > than [q'], | but not as common as [p'], [t'], [ts'] > or [tS'], as far as I know. > > This runs counter to what I thought I knew about the > frequencies. To my knowledge, [p'] was the really > marked one (witness the glottalic theory of PIE), > [q'] was not all that rare (standard Georgian, for > instance, has [q'] as its only uvular stop), and
[k']
> was quite common. > > Can anyone corroborate either of these sets of > assertions?
I concur; everything I've seen points to a hierarchy that runs something like [k'] (= most common of all) > [t'] > [p'] (= least common of all). At least, the Semitic languages support this, if we assume that the [q] in Arabic, Aramaic and Hebrew came from an earlier *k'. We find *p' in none of those languages — except for, notably, certain dialects of Aramaic, if memory serves, possibly as a result of the phenomenon of emphatic spreading seen in that language family when two emphatics run right next to each other. According to William Croft in 'Typology and Universals', there's a set of hierarchies corresponding to certain classes of plosives; I think it runs like this: Voiceless pulmonic: k > t > p (/p/ is the most common one to drop out of a voiceless pulmonic stop system; viz. Arabic and Japanese, where /p/ shifted to /f/ and /h/, respectively) Voiced pulmonic: b > d > g (/g/ is the most common phoneme to drop out of a voiced pulmonic stop system; viz. Dutch, where /g/ shifted to /x/, mostly) Glottalized/ejective: k' > t' > p' (already elucidated this hierarchy with the Semitic languages) Implosive: b/ > d/ > g/ (afraid I can't furnish any examples, implosives being vanishingly rare) In the conlang I'm working on now, the ejective system is [t'], [ts'] (evolved from a conflation of [s'], [ts'], [tS'] and [tK']; as such, it's a very common phoneme) and [q'] (evolved from [k']). I'm sure I got the idea from somewhere; I think I'm semi-consciously taking features from both the Navajo (= poverty of labial phonemes), Kartvelian (= lotsa glottals) and Semitic (= ditto) stop systems. ___________________________________________________________ Telefonate ohne weitere Kosten vom PC zum PC: http://messenger.yahoo.de

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