Re: The fourteen vowels of English?

 --- Trebor Jung <treborjung@...> schrieb:

> What puzzles me tho is [EN] rather than /&N/
> (henceforth, /&N/ refers to the
> possibility of both [&N] and [&@N] occurring)
[&@N] never occurs in my speech, and I've never heard
it before. If it is pronounced thus, it's probably
someone being facetious.

> I also recall my grandmother's [&@]'s being a bit
> nasalized. Do you notice
> this phenomenon in your speech?
If nasalization exists, it's very slight. The Southern
accents are notorious for their rampant nasalization,
though.

> "General American seems to be [OU] or something
> similar.
>
> Hmm, well, that's always possible--I'm not a
> linguist, so I guess since my
> ears aren't trained I can't really hear the
> difference so much (if I
> pronounce those diphthongs carefully I can
> distinguish them ATM, but I guess
> [OU)] gets neutralized to [@U)] in fast speech in my
> 'lect, or something).
I'd have to hear it to be sure. You said you're
Canadian, right? I seem to remember [@U)] existing as
a diphthong in Canadianese, but I seem to associate it
with the diphthong [aU]; i.e., /house/ [h@Us], /mouse/
[m@Us], and so on.

> Southern Ontario English (a dialect which in
> monosyllabic words neutralizes
> the main part of a diphthong, e.g. "ride" [r\AI)d] ~
> "write/right" [r\@I)t]
> (or maybe [r\VI)t]? I can't tell for sure)--does
> anyone else notice this in
> their speech?).
Weird. I don't recall ever hearing anything like it.
At least, no one around here speaks like that. Then
again, Canadians would spontaneously combust in
Florida :).


	

	
		
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