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Re: The fourteen vowels of English?

From:Paul Bennett <paul-bennett@...>
Date:Saturday, September 4, 2004, 16:59
On Sat, 04 Sep 2004 11:01:52 -0500, Mark P. Line <mark@...>
wrote:

> Paul Bennett said: >> I remember reading somewhere that English has 14 vowels (presumably >> including diphthongs), but that every dialect collapses at least two of >> them together. >> >> Well, I decided to measure my own lect, and got some surprising >> results. I >> have at least 17 vowels that I can think of, all of which can appear >> between /h/ and /d/... > > You might consider the possibility that some of your examples contain an > /r/.
Not in my non-rhotic lect they don't. And really, I'm trying to aim for a set that's rhoticity-agnostic. Symbols such that if you're rhotic, you put the /r\/ in, semi-rhotic, you put the /@`/ in, and non-rhotic, you use /@/. I don't want to specifically spell out that an |r| is or is not required, since that ties the system to a specific set of lects, and the plan is to produce a system that gives a translectical phonemic rendering. Perhaps this is another case where archiphonemes become a useful concept? Paul

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John Cowan <jcowan@...>
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