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Re: Changing worldviews with language (LONG)

From:John Cowan <jcowan@...>
Date:Sunday, November 3, 2002, 16:38
Harald Stoiber scripsit:

> With the location description "at the restaurant" we have two > distinct ways to represent this information. First we could of course > expand our freshly defined predicate "eat", thus: eat(x,y,z) - whereas > "z" is the location where the eating takes place. Viewing it this way, > a preposition adds to the valency of the verb.
Lojban: mi cidja loi cidrpitsa ne'i le gusta I eat some pizza within the restaurant The "ne'i" adds a third argument to the predicate "cidja", eat.
> at(eat,restaurant)(I,pizza)
I think rather "at(eat(I,pizza),restaurant)", which in Lojban is: le nu mi cidja loi cidrpitsa kei nenri le gusta the event-of( I eat some pizza ) is-within the restaurant The family resemblance between "nenri" and "ne'i" is of course no accident, though not fully systematic either.
> If we wanted a most universal and generic language with a lexicon > full of concepts, then why restrict those concepts by any pre-defined > valency?
Google for "Voksigid". -- My corporate data's a mess! John Cowan It's all semi-structured, no less. But I'll be carefree Using XSLT In an XML DBMS.