Re: Elvish ideas ...

Quoting Tristan McLeay <kesuari@...>:

> B. P. Jones sunu Æ¿raet:
> > At 20:19 19.8.2003 +0200, Andreas Johansson wrote:
> >
> >
> >>in my 'lect the corresponding words are
> >>_kyrka_ [SYr`:ka], _hjärta_ [j{t`:a] and _stjärna_ [x{:n`a].
> >
> >
> > [s\3\4kQ], [jEt:Q] and [xE:nQ] for me when I'm sounding
> > really local/unmonitored/cocky.
>
> You both sure this is the same language that's being spelt now? [x] for
> <stj>? That's outrageous! I'd never even *thought* of something like that.
I'm not certain how serious I ought to take complaints about outrageous
orthography from a native anglophone ...

At least <stj> is reliably [x] (unless there's a morpheme break in it). Now,
the umpteen different ways of writing initial [x-] and [j-] is no doubt one of
the weaker points of Swedish spelling. But most of the ambiguity is in the
pronunciation->spelling direction rather than the reverse.

This not to deny that there's no way to tell that _general_ and _generell_
("general" as noun and adjective, respectively) have respectively [j-] and [x-
], and _gecko_ has [g-].

> > When did this thread turn into YAEPT, BTW?
>
> [DIs luks mo: l6ik@ swI\idIS pr\_0n"ansij&iS@n Tr\ed t_hmI\i. (DijINglIS
> wan b@gInz @ bIt f2_":D@ d&u\n)]
>
> (That 2_" would've been better as 8+front, I think, but I don't know how
> to do it.)
>
> > I guess Andreas will have to start another
> > _Meghean ideas_ thread.
>
> And knowing his luck, it'll become an EPT yet again...
We'll see. I'll have something more to say on Meghean before I start a new
thread, I think. I'm still debating whether /s/ should >[S] before [j i e].

                                                                Andreas

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