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From:Mat McVeagh <matmcv@...>
Date:Friday, November 1, 2002, 6:37
>From: Tim May <butsuri@...> > > > > How about this for a suggestion: a language that doesn't clearly > > > have the categories "word", "phrase", "sentence". Instead it has > > > other levels of grammatical scale and structure, > > > > I was just reading about this the other day. I think it was in the > > book "Language Typology and Syntactic Description: Volume 2, > > Complex Constructions", which I bought a few years ago after it was > > (yes) recommended on this list :) Anyway, whichever book it was, I > > was reading a section on chaining languages. They specifically > > mentioned that some of these languages seemed to have nothing > > corresponding to a sentence; rather, they naturally organized into > > simple clauses and paragraph-length chains of clauses. > > >As an example of this kind of thing (I think) here's a little story in >Classical Tibetan, with interlinear, which I found on Scott DeLancey's >website. > >http://www.uoregon.edu/~delancey/sb/BOYBIRD.HTM
Fascinating. I would categorise this as extreme concatenation, or co-ordination (as in co-ordinate conjunctions and clauses). It is just about possible to imagine some of those sentences as one sentence in English, if you put a few semi-colons in. I wonder however how common this sort of construction was in Classical Tibetan in ordinary speech. That piece was a story, and so can be stylised into an unusual syntax perhaps. One barrier to endless concatenation of clauses is that your memory runs out and your chain of thought does not connect so well as to be able to continue in that fashion. Regarding my original idea... More what I had in mind is breaking down words into morphemes, and simultaneously expanding words into hyphenated phrases. Then there would be another level of phrasing which would be something very specific within a 'clause' if there was such a thing, and clauses would be very restricted within sentences. One way to make it unusual would be to ban co-ordinate clauses - you would have to start a new sentence. Mat _________________________________________________________________ Surf the Web without missing calls! Get MSN Broadband. http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/freeactivation.asp

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Tim May <butsuri@...>