Re: "Theory informs practice" - OK?

I'm not sure the first sentence of the second group actually is equative:

 2) a) Obama is President-Elect.                    --- [Equative

In this case, 'president-elect' is a role played by someone, for a while, until
that person becomes president...then when the next election comes around,
someone else becomes 'president-elect'.

As for Lenin and Vladirmir Ulyanov, these are two referential nouns that happen
to apply to the same individual at all times. That is, no one besides Lenin can
be Vladimir Ulyanov ever. That is why they are equative.

-Elliott


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From: Yahya Abdal-Aziz <yahya@...>
To: CONLANG@listserv.brown.edu
Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2008 12:58:42 PM
Subject: "Theory informs practice" - OK?

Hi all,

See the review by Andrew Carnie of the book "Copular
Sentences in Russian" by Asya Pereltsvaig at:
http://linguistlist.org/pubs/reviews/get-review.cfm?subid=195628

This book gives a thoroughly modern theoretical
explanation of why the two sentences:

  1) a) Lenin byl Vladimir Uljanov                    --- [Equative]
  Lenin.NOM was Vladimir Ulyanov.NOM
  'Lenin was Vladimir Ulyanov'

  1) b) Gnomy byli sucestvami rabotjascimi     --- [Predicative]
  Gnomes.NOM were creatures.INST laborious.INST
  '(The) gnomes were laborious creatures.'

  [Note: the two "sc" tokens should have haceks over both letters]
both using the verb "byl" ("to be") are not grammatically
equivalent.  I suppose English equivalents with a modern
context might be:
  2) a) Obama is President-Elect.                    --- [Equative]
  2) b) Obama is a black man.                          --- [Predicative]
although I'd hesitate to assign cases to the right-hand
arguments.

I found the review informative and thought-provoking,
and would probably enjoy reading the book - should
anyone be kind enough to stump up the horrendous
price.

My question for you practising conlang creators is this:
  How much, if at all, do theoretical considerations like
  those discussed in the review (and of course, the
  book) influence your thinking and activity?
If you choose to reply, please do so on-list.

Regards,
Yahya

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